Hi-Risk/Recurrent/Advanced PCa Video Chat, Feb 21, 2022
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Next week’s meeting will be on Tue, March 1. That’s because Feb and March mess up our Meeting Calendar, so we have to make adjustments to avoid consecutive nights!
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Editor’s Pick: Both new men this week are under 60; listen to their stories! (rd)
Topics Discussed
Younger man with challenging disease tries to find best Tx; lung nodules pose issue for another younger man; side effects of Lu177 PSMA; germline vs Somatic testing and teh PROMISE trial (link below); IHT brings some relief; survival stats; is joint pain a comorbidity of ADT?; bone density; low T? Get a complete testosterone work up.
Chat Log
George Rovder Arlington VA (to Everyone): 6:12 PM: rd@ancan.org
John Ivory (to Everyone): 6:15 PM: Not sure if Brett can see the chat (if you’re on phone or computer). We have an Under 60 group at which we’d love to see you: https://ancan.org/event/under-60-advanced-prostate-cancer-2/all/
John Ivory (to Everyone): 6:34 PM: PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT: Our guest this month for Solo Arts Heal has played a role that will be familiar to many of you: a family caregiver. Barbara Dyskant cared for a former member of this group whom some of you might remember, her husband Barry Miller (who unfortunately passed away in 2020). Earlier, she cared for her daughter who survived two years on chemo for leukemia (now undetectable). She’ll be playing original songs; Rick Davis will host. Please join us at 10:30 p.m. ET/7:30 p.m. PT https://themarsh.org/soloartsheal/
Paul Freda Florida (Private): 6:34 PM: Ric Tall Allen has a new post that says there is data that Vitamin D6 can CAUSE make cancer MORE likely. Very unusual. You might want to check that out. … JFYI … Saw it on Healthunlocked …… “Actually, those toxicities are quite common. High Vitamin D pulls calcium out of bones and causes osteoporosis. We just saw, in the D-Health trial, there was a 24% increase in cancer among those taking high amounts of Vitamin D for years.”
AnCan – rick (to Paul Freda Florida): 6:39 PM: D3 or B6 Paul
Paul Freda Florida (Private): 6:41 PM: I believe it said just Vitamin D. He added that some dairy and a bit of sunlight is all you need to avoid ricketts.
John Ivory (to Organizer(s) Only): 6:41 PM: https://www.inova.org/doctors/jeanny-b-aragon-ching-md
Paul Freda Florida (Private): 6:43 PM: Like most things, there are limits. For example, I believe my kidney stone last year was due to my excessive consumption of Vitamin C. I follow Dr Linus Pawling’s advice. Just learned about that danger recently.
AnCan – rick (to Paul Freda Florida): 6:43 PM: Not really new news, Paul. You have to regulate your D intake to lep it at the right leve. I don’t read Health Unlocked. Not sure thre is anything here that is new to us …… check with Len. Suggest you bring it up …
Paul Freda Florida (Private): 6:45 PM: Reluctant to put a scare in to everyone with so little information. One study.
AnCan – rick (to Paul Freda Florida): 6:49 PM: allow the moderators to decide ….
AnCan – rick (to Everyone): 6:59 PM: Sean Collins at Georgetown
George Rovder Arlington VA (to Everyone): 7:00 PM: Dr. Sean Collins Website:
George Rovder Arlington VA (to Everyone): 7:01 PM: https://www.medstarhealth.org/doctors/sean-philip-collins-md-phd
Frank Fabish (to Everyone): 7:02 PM: Guys I need to cut out early. Early appt tomorrow
Len Sierra (to Everyone): 7:22 PM: PROMISE trial: https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04995198
George Rodriguez (to Everyone): 7:27 PM: what level does your PSA need to be in order to get a PSMA?
Peter Kafka (to Organizer(s) Only): 7:29 PM: Best to have a PSA of at least 0.5
Peter Kafka (to Everyone): 7:29 PM: Best to have a PSA of at least 0.5 for minimum PSMA reading.
AnCan – rick (to Everyone): 7:30 PM: George – probably 0.65 or higher. Sounds like Tony got it early. It may work but to be sure >0.65
George Rodriguez (Private): 7:30 PM: thanks
AnCan – rick (to Everyone): 7:31 PM: Jeff – some more info from PCF https://www.pcf.org/c/the-promise-of-studying-inherited-genes/
Pat Martin (to Everyone): 7:32 PM: I’ve been on and off Lupron and Eligard for the last 8 years. Zytiga for 50 months.
Vic (to Everyone): 7:32 PM: https://prostatecancerpromise.org
AnCan – rick (to Everyone): 7:32 PM: Thanks Vic ….
George Rodriguez (to Everyone): 7:33 PM: I’m on Eligard, what’s the difference with Zytiga?
Julian Morales-Houston (to Everyone): 7:33 PM: I am on Zytiga, 1000 mg/day, for 4 months
Vic (to Everyone): 7:33 PM: Eligard is ADT and Zytiga I’d
Vic (to Everyone): 7:35 PM: Zytiga is 2nd generation hormone therapy
Pat Martin (to Everyone): 7:35 PM: How long has Sylvester been fighting the beast?
Len Sierra (to Everyone): 7:37 PM: Sylvester had low risk PCa and I believe he is cured.
Sylvester Mann (to Everyone): 7:37 PM: twenty-two years.
AnCan – rick (to Pat Martin): 7:37 PM: Sylvester nailed his disease with RT on recurrence and has durable remission
Len Sierra (to Everyone): 7:38 PM: Yay Sylvester!!
John Ivory (to Organizer(s) Only): 7:39 PM: If you haven’t exercised in a while, you’re also likely to have joint pain until you’re stretched out a bit
John Ivory (to Everyone): 7:39 PM: If you haven’t exercised in a while, you’re also likely to have joint pain until you’re stretched out a bit
Julian Morales-Houston (to Everyone): 7:41 PM: ADT = Androgen Deprivation Therapy
John Ivory (to Organizer(s) Only): 7:44 PM: Wouldn’t Men Speaking Freely be good for Tony The Boss?
John Ivory (to Everyone): 7:53 PM: https://ancan.org/men-speaking-freely/https://ancan.org/men-speaking-freely/
Rich Jackson (to Everyone): 7:54 PM: Next ‘Speaking Freely’ will be March 17, 8pm EST. To connect, use the same link as got you here. Non-Technical call, men only, any serious disease (mostly prostate cancer men show up).
Rich Jackson (to Everyone): 7:56 PM: Thank you John Ivory.
Pat Martin (to Everyone): 7:57 PM: Doesn’t BAT encourage testosterone in cycle?
Chris Carrino (to Everyone): 7:58 PM: Any one try the new Orgovyx ADT? First timer. I’ll be up and running next week with video/audio
John Ivory (to Everyone): 7:58 PM: Sorry Rich–didn’t see you among all the faces here–you would have better described your meeting!
AnCan – rick (to Everyone): 7:59 PM: Chris – we have several men on Orgovyx tonight
John Ivory (to Everyone): 7:59 PM: @Chris Carrino–I’ve been on Orgovyx for a year. Has worked as well as leuprolide and no painful injections
Joe Gallo (to Everyone): 7:59 PM: Hi Chris, I started on Orgovyx last year.
Peter Kafka (to Everyone): 8:00 PM: A number of us have tried and still using Orgovyx. Join in at the next meeting and discuss. Next meeting will be Tuesday, March 1st at 6 pm Eastern time.
John Ivory (to Everyone): 8:00 PM: Since I mentioned it, Here’s Jimmy G’s performance on Solo Arts Heal. Highly recommended. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vp1xBkc3am8
Chris Carrino (to Everyone): 8:01 PM: Mine apparently stopped working with rapid rise in T. Put me on Fermigon
Rich Jackson (to Everyone): 8:01 PM: Thought you did an outstanding job. Nothing for me to add other than the date.
John Ivory (to Everyone): 8:03 PM: I have zero testosterone. That’s why I called on you, Jimmy. 😀