Hi-Risk/Recurrent/Advanced PCa Video Chat, Aug 15, 2023

Hi-Risk/Recurrent/Advanced PCa Video Chat, Aug 15, 2023

Hi-Risk/Recurrent/Advanced PCa Video Chat, Aug 15, 2023

AnCan is grateful to the following sponsors for making this recording possible: Bayer, Foundation Medicine, Pfizer, Janssen, Myriad Genetics, Myovant, Telix & Blue Earth Diagnostics.

AnCan’s Prostate Cancer Forum is back (https://ancan.org/forums). If you’d like to comment on anything you see in our Recordings or read in our Reminders, just sign up and go right ahead. You can also click on the Forum icon at the top right of the webpage.

All AnCan’s groups are free and drop-in … join us in person sometime! You can find out more about our 12 monthly prostate cancer meetings at https://ancan.org/prostate-cancer/     Sign up to receive a weekly Reminder/Newsletter for this Group or others at https://ancan.org/contact-us/          Join our other free and drop in groups: Men (Only) Speaking Freely…1st & 3rd Thursdays @ 8.00 pm Eastern https://ancan.org/men-speaking-freely/        Veterans Healthcare… 4th Thursday @ 8.00 pm Eastern https://ancan.org/veterans/

Editor’s pick: All his scans are saying it: cancer doesn’t live here anymore. (bn)

Topics Discussed

Scan after scan after scan says cancer’s gone; Dr. E gets her proxy hug; no biggie if blood tests are a bit out of range; multiday fasts; recalling Mark Horn; verdicts shift on maybe-metastasis; good experiences with Dr. Singh?; clinical trial prodding from docs; Medicare’s limit on “too many” scans; MSK protection against insurance denials; pelvic floor therapy miraculous for incontinence; spurning cabazitaxel and re-upping for docetaxel; moment of truth arriving as ADT fades; putting Dr. A in the driver seat; listing all the prostate drugs out there; making the new Wassersug edition affordable; solo darolutamide in his future; hidden blessings of an unseeable cancer; docs reconsidering radiation for gyncomastia; any test for PSMA avidity?; sucking on lemons but smiling as Pluvicto drops his PSA; Keytruda’s ups and downs; no PSMA, no point in Pluvicto; husband’s mets reach liver and pancreas.

Chat Log

AnCan – rick · 6:20 PM
That’s why we pay Dr. E the Big Bucks!!!

Julian – Houston · 6:26 PM
Amen!

TonyFig · 7:21 PM
Dr. Wassersug’s book has a couple of tables listing various drugs for different stages of treatment. Since that time, there have been many new approved drugs. Is there any table or listing of the various drugs we discuss on the calls?

Richard Wassersug · 7:30 PM
-Androgen Derpivation Therapy 2023 edition. First author Richard WASSERSUG

Richard Wassersug · 7:31 PM
richard.wassersug@ubc.ca

AnCan – rick · 7:41 PM
Not for a single dose of RT, Richard according to the cariologists we’ve spoken to

Richard Wassersug · 7:41 PM
Good to hear.

AnCan – rick · 7:42 PM
Left sided BCa RT is usually a much higher dose.

Len Sierra · 7:43 PM
I agree with Rick on the breast RT issue. My understanding is that RT to breast tissue for gynecomastia prophylaxis is low dose.

Richard Wassersug · 7:45 PM
Yes, but it is indeed being done less often here in Canada.

Richard Wassersug · 7:46 PM
Meanwhile I have to go. Thank you for letting me join you today.

Len Sierra · 7:47 PM
Thanks for coming!

Peter Gudel · 7:47 PM
I have to go… thanks to all

? · 7:47 PM
If you have Gynecomastia and BRCA you probably don’t want to do radiation because if you get breast cancer, they can no longer treat you fully with radiation

? · 7:48 PM
A real gotcha

Geoff · 7:50 PM
Should we (I) routinely get a FDG scan along with a PSMA scan? Or is it only an issue for Pluvicto patients?

Julian – Houston · 7:52 PM
Thanks guys – have to go.

AnCan – rick · 7:53 PM
For Pluvicto patients – this is the same issue of concordance

AnCan – rick · 7:54 PM
From Pat M …. I use Lemonhead candies to combat dry mouth and it excites the taste buds.

Pat Martin · 8:00 PM
Good night see you next week

AnCan – rick · 8:08 PM
https://pathology.jhu.edu/patient-care/second-opinions

Wendy · 8:56 PM
Here is video on aCaregiving and Coping with Ambiguous Loss https://www.youtube.com/live/iz4NgckybeY?feature=share

 

Hi-Risk/Recurrent/Advanced PCa Video Chat, Aug 15, 2023

Hi-Risk/Recurrent/Advanced PCa Video Chat, Aug 7, 2023

Hi-Risk/Recurrent/Advanced PCa Video Chat, Aug 7, 2023

AnCan is grateful to the following sponsors for making this recording possible: Bayer, Foundation Medicine, Pfizer, Janssen, Myriad Genetics, Myovant, Telix & Blue Earth Diagnostics.

NOTE: August schedule change for Tuesday meetings only – next meeting Aug 15

AnCan’s Prostate Cancer Forum is back (https://ancan.org/forums). If you’d like to comment on anything you see in our Recordings or read in our Reminders, just sign up and go right ahead. You can also click on the Forum icon at the top right of the webpage.

All AnCan’s groups are free and drop-in … join us in person sometime! You can find out more about our 12 monthly prostate cancer meetings at https://ancan.org/prostate-cancer/     Sign up to receive a weekly Reminder/Newsletter for this Group or others at https://ancan.org/contact-us/          Join our other free and drop in groups: Men (Only) Speaking Freely…1st & 3rd Thursdays @ 8.00 pm Eastern https://ancan.org/men-speaking-freely/        Veterans Healthcare… 4th Thursday @ 8.00 pm Eastern https://ancan.org/veterans/

Editor’s pick: Mayo offers great docs… provided you select them. Otherwise ‘caveat emptor!’! (rd)

Topics Discussed

Recurrent VA patient lucks out at VA-SF; singlet vs doublet therapy; Dr. E gears up for The General; when to go back on HT .. and what HT exactly; PSA spikes after 2 pembros… that can happen!; Mayo fails to get it right around Pluvicto – or maybe it’s just the wrong doc; what’s the difference between LHRH/ADT drugs?; what type of RT is needed?; prostate area lights up – lungs do not??; stay away from the local uro and get back to the GU med onc

Chat Log

  • John Asent · 5:28 PM
    Genitourinary (GU) Medical Oncologist
  • Steve Schulersent · 5:31 PM
    genomic vs. somatic?
  • sent · 5:31 PM
    https://www.prostatecancerpromise.org/?utm_campaign=ANCAN&utm_medium=link&utm_source=Webinar
  • Gary Psent · 5:31 PM
    genetic and genomic
  • Jim Marshall, Alexandria, VAsent · 5:31 PM
    Gerry: Since the VA does have.a GU Medical Oncologist, you can get a Voucher to go to UCSF through the VA’s IVC office. Jim Marshall, AF-Ret.
  • John Asent · 5:33 PM
    germline genetic test=inherited genes. somatic gene test = see if there is a tumor mutation
  • Julian – Houstonsent · 5:37 PM
    Tumors may also have germline mutations
  • Joe Gallosent · 5:37 PM
    Orgovyx
  • chipsent · 5:38 PM
    can someone ” bullet point” the difference/advantages of orgovyx over Eligard/Lupron.. thanks
  • John Asent · 5:38 PM
    (it’s other name is relugolix) the VA uses non-brand names
  • Julian – Houstonsent · 5:43 PM
    Orgovyx = Relugolixt
  • Joe Gallosent · 5:47 PM
    joeg@ancan.org
  • Joe Gallosent · 6:00 PM
    embr labs
  • Joe Gallosent · 6:01 PM
    embrlabs.com
  • Gerry Burrsent · 6:03 PM
    love embr device and it works for our hot flashes
  • George Rovder, Arlington VAsent · 7:24 PM
    Good Night Gentlemen. Thank you all.
  • Steve Schulersent · 7:26 PM
    Ever a smoker?
  • chipsent · 7:27 PM
    Night All,,, past my bedtime 🙂
  • Gary Psent · 7:31 PM
    Need to sign off, gentlemen. Hope you all have a good rest of the week.
  • Steve Schulersent · 7:33 PM
    Take care, and thanks.
  • John Asent · 7:35 PM
    goodnight guys
Hi-Risk/Recurrent/Advanced PCa Video Chat, Aug 15, 2023

Hi-Risk/Recurrent/Advanced PCa Video Chat, July 11, 2023

Hi-Risk/Recurrent/Advanced PCa Video Chat, July 11, 2023

AnCan is grateful to the following sponsors for making this recording possible: Bayer, Foundation Medicine, Pfizer, Janssen, Myriad Genetics, Myovant, Telix & Blue Earth Diagnostics.

NOTE: August Schedule Change for Tuesday meeting only – Tuesday, Aug 1 and 15

UPCOMING WEBINAR: What’s Inside the Black Box? -How & Why PCa Genomic Tests Work    Register at https://tinyurl.com/ancanpcagenwebinar

AnCan’s Prostate Cancer Forum is back (https://ancan.org/forums). If you’d like to comment on anything you see in our Recordings or read in our Reminders, just sign up and go right ahead. You can also click on the Forum icon at the top right of the webpage.

All AnCan’s groups are free and drop-in … join us in person sometime!   You can find out more about our 12 monthly prostate cancer meetings at https://ancan.org/prostate-cancer/      Sign up to receive a weekly Reminder/Newsletter for this Group or others at https://ancan.org/contact-us/

Join our other free and drop in groups: Men (Only) Speaking Freely…1st & 3rd Thursdays @ 8.00 pm Eastern https://ancan.org/men-speaking-freely/ Veterans Healthcare… 4th Thursday @ 8.00 pm Eastern https://ancan.org/veterans/

Editor’s Pick: Abiraterone can have significant cardio comorbidities (rd)

Topics discussed

Immediate recurrence following RP; older Gent seeks GU med onc after 12 years; PSA fluctuates during Pluvicto; no more Pluvicto problems – maybe thanks to AnCan!; GU med onc in Toronto – but is it needed?; abi +meddling with dosage may have lead to heart issues; older Gent continue Pluvicto; HT therapy does what it should – to the concern of this physician patient; doc raises darolutamide monotherapy; upcoming webinar and August calendar change

Chat Log

Neil Brandom sent · 3:23 PM Note to self : GU Medical oncologist  Mathew Rettic UCLA Rana McKay UCSD

AnCan – rick sent · 4:12 PM Michael Ong  http://www.med.uottawa.ca/internalmedicine/medical%20oncology/eng/MichaelOng.html

AnCan – rick sent · 4:19 PM Neil Fleshner https://www.uhn.ca/PatientsFamilies/Search_Doctors/Pages/doctor_detail.aspx?doctor=366

Len Sierra sent · 4:59 PM Jack et al., This is why you want to take darolutamide even with a low T level: Nubeqa (darolutamide) is an androgen receptor inhibitor. Darolutamide competitively inhibits androgen binding, AR nuclear translocation, and AR-mediated transcription

Alan Babcock sent · 5:02 PM That makes my wife happy. bye

Hi-Risk/Recurrent/Advanced PCa Video Chat, Aug 15, 2023

Hi-Risk/Recurrent/Advanced PCa Video Chat, July 3, 2023

Hi-Risk/Recurrent/Advanced PCa Video Chat, July 3, 2023

AnCan is grateful to the following sponsors for making this recording possible: Bayer, Foundation Medicine, Pfizer, Janssen, Myriad Genetics, Myovant, Telix & Blue Earth Diagnostics.

AnCan’s Prostate Cancer Forum is back https://ancan.org/forums. If you’d like to comment on anything you see in our Recordings or read in our Reminders, just sign up and go right ahead. You can also click on the Forum icon at the top right of the webpage.

All AnCan’s groups are free and drop-in … join us in person sometime! You can find out more about our 12 monthly prostate cancer meetings at https://ancan.org/prostate-cancer/    Sign up to receive a weekly Reminder/Newsletter for this Group or others at https://ancan.org/contact-us/

Join our other free and drop in groups: Men (Only) Speaking Freely…1st & 3rd Thursdays @ 8.00 pm Eastern https://ancan.org/men-speaking-freely/      Veterans Healthcare… 4th Thursday @ 8.00 pm Eastern https://ancan.org/veterans/

Editor’s Pick: This meeting was packed with lots of good stuff – from diabetes management on HT to the equivalency of gentle vs strenuous exercise (rd)

Topics discussed

Hormone treatment and diabetes management (see Chat); next ‘foamy gland’ treatment discussion; do I need a bone strengthener – pros & cons; does TP53 increase risk for other cancers?*; can ADT result in physical anxiety?; advanced prostate cancer management at Walter Reade Military Hospital; are scans a valid protocol to close out hormone therapy treatment?; is gentle vs strenuous exercise equivalent? * My lack of concern over TP53 is based on somatic mutations only! Germline TP53 carries risk for other cancers. (rd)

Chat Log

Ben Nathanson sent · 5:16 PM I think Jeff Marchi is right about the new video…we finally appear to have more than 25 cameras on!

Jim Marshall, Alexandria, VA sent · 5:18 PM It appears I can get up to 30 screens of people. jim Sylvester sent · 5:19 PM Sylvester has nothing tonight. I can hear this session. Thanks.

sent · 5:21 PM I can only get 8 active cameras. People go blank including me, and the 8 rotate between many people. If I pick everyone all but 8 cameras are blank, but I see 28 boxes If more than 28 here, it is now possible to slide over and see another screen of 28. That’s new

Larry Fish sent · 5:31 PM newer diabetes medications: I am on Mounjaro very effective AIC down from 8.1 to 7.1 in just 2 months; other more popular medication is Ozempic (sp?)

Steve Schuler sent · 5:53 PM Bye, have a safe 4th folks!

David Muslin sent · 6:14 PM What was that the name of the drug that Len just mentioned?

AnCan – rick sent · 6:15 PM Zometa

John A sent · 6:25 PM sorry pl defer to Dr Jack. Yes to PT and relaxation techniques. Yes to therapy for underlying fear. Can’t eliminate the cause–ADT and PCa.

David Muslin sent · 6:35 PM For what it’s worth, my Rad Onc at Northwestern stayed in touch with me for 12 months after my SBRT treatment

sent · 6:40 PM My Rad Onc is ordering a PSMA Pet scan. My Med Onc is ordering my meds.

AnCan – rick sent · 6:42 PM You need a GU med onc, Jay!

John A sent · 6:49 PM I tried that on my doc, and he was one of the authors of ARCHES. He declined to order any scans until my PSA got at least to .2.

Neil Sundstrom sent · 6:51 PM can you put that scan name in the chat?

george rovder arlington va sent · 6:52 PM https://peterattiamd.com/rajpaulattariwala/ Rajpaul Attariwala, M.D., Ph.D.: Cancer screening with full-body MRI scans and a seminar on the field of radiology

Len Sierra sent · 6:55 PM Gentle exercise vs. strenuous exercise in cancer relate fatigue: https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/15347354231162584

Ben Nathanson sent · 6:56 PM https://responding.substack.com/p/treading-softly

sent · 6:59 PM Diffusion weighted MRI. Dr. Raipaul Attariwala in Vancouver at AIM medical imaging

Frank Fabish Columbus OH sent · 7:01 PM Have a great 4th. See you next week.

Stan Friedman sent · 7:05 PM Len, are you on a beta blocker? I was experiencing real shortness of breadth a month ago and went to my internist. I had been taking propranolol for years to calm an essential tremor I had. He took my off the beta blocker and my short windedness disappeared and my fatigue lessened as well. Of course, my tremor is back, but I can deal with that.

Neil Sundstrom sent · 7:06 PM Gotta go. Happy 4th everyone.

David Muslin sent · 7:10 PM I have to roll gents. Have a safe 4th. Enjoy your families and be in the moment.

Cliff Collins sent · 7:11 PM I really must get some rest. I have a big bike ride in the morning. Please enjoy the 4th with family and friends.

Dennis Correia sent · 7:11 PM great discussion on exercise.

Hi-Risk/Recurrent/Advanced PCa Video Chat, Aug 15, 2023

Hi-Risk/Recurrent/Advanced PCa Video Chat, June 19, 2023

Hi-Risk/Recurrent/Advanced PCa Video Chat, June 19, 2023

AnCan is grateful to the following sponsors for making this recording possible: Bayer, Foundation Medicine, Pfizer, Janssen, Myriad Genetics, Myovant, Telix & Blue Earth Diagnostics

AnCan’s Prostate Cancer Forum is back (https://ancan.org/forums). If you’d like to comment on anything you see in our Recordings or read in our Reminders, just sign up and go right ahead. You can also click on the Forum icon at the top right of the webpage.

WEBINAR next week … PARP-Inhibitors and their role treating Prostate Cancer. Who saw the FDA approval for Talapro + Xtandi this week? Hear one of the investigators talk about this combo on Thu June 29. Register at   https://tinyurl.com/ancanparpwebinar

All AnCan’s groups are free and drop-in … join us in person sometime! You can find out more about our 12 monthly prostate cancer meetings at https://ancan.org/prostate-cancer/  Sign up to receive a weekly Reminder/Newsletter for this Group or others at https://ancan.org/contact-us/

Join our other free and drop in groups: Men (Only) Speaking Freely…1st & 3rd Thursdays @ 8.00 pm Eastern https://ancan.org/men-speaking-freely/         Veterans Healthcare… 4th Thursday @ 8.00 pm Eastern https://ancan.org/veterans/

Editor’s Pick: Hot flashes flare up! (rd)

Topics Discussed

Switching to darolutamide; is ARV7 still relevant?; cabazitaxel (Jevtana) vs docetaxel (Taxotere); mega fatigue may warrant a drug holiday; starting Pluvicto on top of chemo; Ambrx ARX517 trial; troublesome hot flashes are a flashpoint; picking the right GU med onc; starting immunotherapy while tapering on steroids; pectin supplements

Chat Log

Len Sierra sent · 5:28 PM Darolutamide inhibited the transcriptional activity of AR mutants identified in the plasma of CRPC patients progressing on traditional therapies. In particular, darolutamide significantly inhibited the transcriptional activity of the F877L, H875Y/T878A, F877L/T878A, and the previously unreported T878G AR mutants, that transform enzalutamide into a partial agonist.

John A sent · 5:33 PM Liu et al. Selective degradation of AR-V7 to overcome castration resistance of prostate cancer. Cell Death Dis. 2021

AnCan – rick sent · 5:38 PM Oliver Sartor now at Mayo

AnCan – rick sent · 5:49 PM Depo-Provera

George Southiere sent · 5:56 PM ACTH(adrenocorticotrphic) stimulation test = patient given ACTH and adrenal gland function is assessed- usually done by Endocrinologist

John A sent · 5:57 PM thanks

George Pat Martin sent · 6:00 PM I’m worn out. Gonna log off . be back next week

AnCan – rick sent · 6:04 PM Venlafaxine

Len Sierra sent · 6:05 PM https://embrlabs.com/products/embr-wave-2

AnCan – rick sent · 6:07 PM Embr watch.. d/c

Ancan50 sent · 6:07 PM Depo provera

George Southiere sent · 6:08 PM Gabapentin has helped me due to my severe neuropathy and has helped the hot flashes for me

sent · 6:09 PM I take 600mg gabapentin 3 times a day now. It never helped with my hot flashes.

Len Sierra sent · 6:37 PM modified citrus pectin (MCP) increases the prostate-specific antigen doubling time in men with prostate cancer: a phase II pilot study

Len Sierra sent · 6:39 PM 1. Modified citrus pectin (MCP) increases the prostate-specific antigen doubling time in men with prostate cancer: a phase II pilot study

Len Sierra sent · 6:40 PM https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/14663471/

Salvador sent · 6:43 PM Thank You for your feedback.

Chip & Jane sent · 6:48 PM G’nite All.. thanks for the fine discussion.

George Rovder, Arlington VA sent · 6:52 PM Thank you all. Good Night.

Salvador sent · 6:53 PM Thank You everyone, I learned a lot tonight

Terrill SF sent · 6:53 PM Thank you all. Good Night.