Hi-Risk/Recurrent/Advanced PCa Video Chat, Apr 11, 2023

Hi-Risk/Recurrent/Advanced PCa Video Chat, Apr 11, 2023

Hi-Risk/Recurrent/Advanced PCa Video Chat, Apr 11, 2023

AnCan is grateful to the following sponsors for making this recording posssible: Bayer, Foundation Medicine, Pfizer, Janssen, Myriad Gentics, Myovant & Telix

AnCan Foundation deeply mourns our dear Board & Advisory Board Member, Moderator and Brains Trust Brother, Herb Geller. To read more click https://mailchi.mp/ancan/remembering-herbert-geller?e=838454d636

WEBINAR RECORDING: What is a Pelvic Floor Physical Therapist – & why you need one https://ancan.org/webinar-what-is-a-p…

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Editor’s pick: We are all devastated aboout Herb GRHS – it didn’t have to be this way!

Topics Discussed

Remembering Herbie; another octogenarian with mystery mets; man with a 7.5 Gleason(???) does well on recurrence; community oncologist provides sub-standard care; capaversitib trial failing – sequencing needed; chemo drops nadir – and more sequencing needed; is 8 months ADT enough for early salvage RT?; PSA drops and tumors shrink except for the new one!; Next Generation Somatic Sequencing IS available if your doc says so; monotherapy darolutamide does the trick; exercise + anxietyDr. S accepts our man and orders HT; PROMISE is the path of least resistance.

Chat Log

CF sent · 5:19 PM We will miss him.

rd sent · 5:20 PM Thank you for observing the silence. Herb details …. Hope you can open this …. https://mailchi.mp/ancan/remembering-herbert-geller?e=[UNIQID]

AnCan- rick sent · 5:23 PM Sponsors Bayer, Pfizer, Janssen, Myovant, Myriad, Telix, Foundation Medicine

sent · 5:36 PM What was Gleason after surgery?

Vic St. Louis, MO sent · 6:15 PM triplet therapy?????

Len Sierra sent · 6:16 PM Good call, Vic. He fits the profile for triplet therapy.

Vic St. Louis, MO sent · 6:17 PM since may 2021!!!

Larry Fish sent · 6:17 PM What kind of scans? Sounds like he may have lit up like a Christmas tree. Then there was probably something to biopsy- eg hip

Vic St. Louis, MO sent · 6:18 PM 10-4

Bob G sent · 6:22 PM Goodnight all. Thanks.

sent · 6:33 PM My name is MarkK and I just joined today. I am stage 4 to the bone and want someone like me to talk to This chat barely works so try spartybbmark@yahoo.com

sent · 6:38 PM Mark Cuban’s discount drug site sells Abbie for $145 for 120 pills. https://Costplusdrugs.com

Pat Martin sent · 6:39 PM I appreciate your input. Going to log off and get this shoe out of my butt that Rick put there See all next Tuesday

Julian – Houston sent · 6:44 PM Thanks everyone! Good discussion as always! Have a good evening.

AnCan- rick sent · 6:56 PM Allen Edel https://pcnrv.blogspot.com/

Len Sierra sent · 6:58 PM Tony, at the site Rick sent you, look for this discussion titled: “Duration of ADT needed with salvage radiation” from Feb 2023

AnCan- rick sent · 7:29 PM Patient Assistance Foundation

AnCan- rick sent · 7:31 PM PROMISE Trial https://www.prostatecancerpromise.org/?utm_campaign=ANCAN&utm_medium=link&utm_source=Webinar

Hi-Risk/Recurrent/Advanced PCa Video Chat, Apr 11, 2023

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AnCan is grateful to the following sponsors for making this recording posssible: Bayer, Foundation Medicine, Pfizer, Janssen, Myriad Gentics, Myovant & Telix

 

WEBINAR RECORDING: What is a Pelvic Floor Physical Therapist – & why you need one https://ancan.org/webinar-what-is-a-pelvic-floor-physical-therapist-and-why-you-need-one/

All AnCan’s groups are free and drop-in … join us in person sometime! You can find out more about our 12 monthly prostate cancer meetings at https://ancan.org/prostate-cancer/    Sign up to receive a weekly Reminder/Newsletter for this Group or others at https://ancan.org/contact-us/

Join our other free and drop in groups: Men (Only) Speaking Freely …1st & 3rd Thursdays @ 8.00 pm Eastern https://ancan.org/men-speaking-freely/   Veterans Healthcare … 4th Thursday @ 8.00 pm Eastern https://ancan.org/veterans/

Editor’s pick: Hang in to the end when we have a good discussion around BCR – biochemical recurrence. (RD)

Topics Discussed

Update on Professor Herb; recurrence in BRCA+ man reluctant to undergo salvage RT; firsthand experience with pelvic floor therapy; how does testosterone recover post HT; more chemo vs worsening side effects as PSA plateaus around nadir; what type of RT is being used for salvage?; with Pluvicto shortage, maybe Xofigo first?; Pluvicto triage update; T comes back and PSA moves a tad post treatment; deciding whether to complate Pluvicto cycle; when to intervene post RP as PSA inches upwards; what constitutes biochemical recurrence?;

Chat Log

Ben https://www.urotoday.com/video-lectures/prostate-cancer/video/2721-the-embark-study-a-phase-3-randomized-study-of-enzalutamide-plus-leuprolide-and-enzalutamide-monotherapy-in-high-risk-nonmetastatic-hormone-sensitive-prostate-cancer-with-rising-psa-after-local-therapy-stephen-freedland.html

Ben sent · 5:55 PM An important element of EMBARK was that study treatment was suspended once the PSA was less than 0.2 or if it was less than 0.2 at week 36 and then restarted when the PSA was greater than or equal to five for those without prior radical prostatectomy and greater than or equal a two with those who had received primary prostatectomy.

AnCan- rick sent · 6:06 PM Webinar …. Pelvic Floor Webinar https://ancan.org/webinar-what-is-a-pelvic-floor-physical-therapist-and-why-you-need-one/

Terrill SF sent · 6:08 PM must leave early…see you all next time

Anthony Pizzoferrato sent · 6:11 PM I will listen to the video for any more information. Need to go. Thanks everyone.

Anthony Bill Franklin sent · 6:20 PM Wang Gao Shan, also, don’t worry too much about the number but more about how you feel and what you can do. Prior to my treatment my T levels were always over 600. Post treatment it never came back higher than 350 but I really can’t tell the difference. Still very active physically and sexually and no worries. It’s all how you feel.

Jack sent · 6:22 PM excessive B-6 can interfere with the effectiveness of cisplatin.

Frank Fabish Columbus OH sent · 6:31 PM Got to go. Thanks guys.

Mark Thompson, Rehoboth Beach, DE sent · 6:35 PM Thank you all for a great discussion tonight. I have several doctors appointments tomorrow so I am going to bed. Still dealing with extreme fatigue. Thank you, Mark Thompson

Bob G sent · 6:57 PM Oh! will send an email with some ideas

Julian – Houston sent · 6:59 PM Another great discussion. Thanks everyone. Good night.

sent · 7:00 PM Nice meeting everyone. Thank you for the support and constructive input. Be safe. Stay strong.

Don Eisner sent · 7:01 PM Have to leave

Ben Nathanson sent · 7:01 PM PSA persistence/recurrence after RP is defined as * failure of PSA to fall to undetectable levels (PSA persistence) or * undetectable PSA after RP with a subsequent detectable PSA that increases on 2 or more determinations (PSA recurrence) or that * increases to PSA less than 0.1 ng/mL. RTOG-ASTRO (Radiation Therapy Oncology Group – American Society for Therapeutic Radiology and Oncology) Phoenix Consensus: 1) PSA increase by 2 ng/mL or more above the nadir PSA is the standard definition for PSA recurrence after EBRT with or without HT; and 2) A recurrence evaluation should be considered when PSA has been confirmed to be increasing after radiation even if the increase above nadir is not yet 2 ng/mL, especially in candidates for salvage local therapy who are young and healthy.

John A sent · 7:10 PM sorry to leave mid discussion guys, gotta go

Joe Comanda sent · 7:13 PM What is the proper approach to ask questions in this group: 1) save them up for the next meeting or 2) send email questions or 3) put them in this chat list?

AnCan- rick sent · 7:13 PM https://www.houstonmethodist.org/doctor/eleni-efstathiou/?inm=vfad

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UPCOMING WEBINAR What is a Pelvic Floor Physical Therapist – & why you need one
Wed, 3/39 8pm Eastern
Dr. Rachel Rubin + Pelvic PT Tracy Sher
Register https://tinyurl.com/4sdhzucf

AnCan is grateful to the following sponsors for making this recording posssible:

Bayer, Foundation Medicine, Pfizer, Janssen, Myriad Gentics, Myovant & Telix

IF YOU HAVE NOT YET WRITTEN TO THE FDA ABOUT THE PLUVICTO SHORTAGE – PLEASE DO.
DIDN’T RECEIVE OUR REQUEST … LMK rd@ancan.org

All AnCan’s groups are free and drop-in … join us in person sometime! You can find out more about our 12 monthly prostate cancer meetings at https://ancan.org/prostate-cancer/
Sign up to receive a weekly Reminder/Newsletter for this Group or others at https://ancan.org/contact-us/

Join our other free and drop in groups:
Men (Only) Speaking Freely …1st & 3rd Thursdays @ 8.00 pm Eastern https://ancan.org/men-speaking-freely/
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Editor’s pick: Genetic test detects a rare mutation — with a treatment — showing the value of somatic testing. (bn)

Topics Discussed

AnCan’s proposals on the Pluvicto shortage get the FDA’s ear; new man hopes for support as salvage winds up; ultrasensitive PSA creeping up — time to worry?; PSA kicks down after darolutamide; is abi “shortage” real?; treading carefully before radiotherapy due to colitis; PSA rising despite Pluvicto — are some metastases non-avid?; PSA OK after run-in with Covid; atrial fibrillation complicates his treatment choices; what’s the story with BAT?; genetic test turns up BRAF mutation, rare in prostate cancer; update on Herb.

Chat Log

AnCan- rick · 6:09 PM WEBINAR tomorrow night …. What’s a Pelvic Floor Therapist …and why you need one! REGISTER HERE https://tinyurl.com/4sdhzucf

Julian – Houston · 6:08 PM I am registered!

Len Sierra · 6:15 PM CDER =Center for Drug Evaluation and Research

AnCan- rick · 6:22 PM WEBINAR tomorrow night …. What’s a Pelvic Floor Therapist …and why you need one! REGISTER HERE https://tinyurl.com/4sdhzucf

AnCan- rick · 6:37 PM Dr. Jaqueline Vuky OHSU https://www.ohsu.edu/providers/jacqueline-vuky-md

David Muslin · 6:39 PM The following are GU Med Ons at OHSU

David Muslin · 6:39 PM Jacqueline Vuky, M.D. Associate Professor of Medicine, School of Medicine ExpertiseCancerCancer and Blood Disorders Special focusBladder
CancerBlood DiseasesBreast CancerColorectal CancerGenitourinary CancersKidney CancerProstate CancerTestis Cancer
David Muslin · 6:40 PM To schedule call 503-346-1500

AnCan- rick · 7:27 PM bicalutamide

John A · 7:35 PM SNMMI just came out with GU guidelines in January–does anyone know what they said about concordance checking?

AnCan- rick · 7:41 PM Life on ADT …. Richard W’s website

AnCan- rick · 7:42 PM https://www.lifeonadt.com/

AnCan- rick · 7:54 PM Here’s the BAT paper …. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9313844/

Kirt Schaper · 7:57 PM Dabrafdnib

John A · 7:58 PM dabrafenib

David Muslin · 8:07 PM I have to roll guys. See you next week.

Frank Fabish Columbus OH · 8:08 PM see you guys

Julian – Houston · 8:08 PM see you guys next week!

Hi-Risk/Recurrent/Advanced PCa Video Chat, Apr 11, 2023

Hi-Risk/Recurrent/Advanced PCa Video Chat, Mar 20, 2023

Hi-Risk/Recurrent/Advanced PCa Video Chat, Mar 20, 2023

AnCan is grateful to the following sponsors for making this recording posssible:

Bayer, Foundation Medicine, Pfizer, Janssen, Myriad Gentics, Myovant & Telix

IF YOU HAVE NOT YET WRITTEN TO THE FDA ABOUT THE PLUVICTO SHORTAGE – PLEASE DO. DIDN’T RECEIVE OUR REQUEST … LMK rd@ancan.org

UPCOMING WEBINAR What is a Pelvic Floor Physical Therapist – & why you need one Wed, 3/39 8pm Eastern Dr. Rachel Rubin + Pelvic PT Tracy Sher Register https://tinyurl.com/4sdhzucf

All AnCan’s groups are free and drop-in … join us in person sometime! You can find out more about our 12 monthly prostate cancer meetings at https://ancan.org/prostate-cancer/       Sign up to receive a weekly Reminder/Newsletter for this Group or others at https://ancan.org/contact-us/

Join our other free and drop in groups: Men (Only) Speaking Freely …1st & 3rd Thursdays @ 8.00 pm Eastern https://ancan.org/men-speaking-freely/      Veterans Healthcare … 4th Thursday @ 8.00 pm Eastern https://ancan.org/veterans/

Editor’s pick: What’s to fear about hormone therapy when intermittent is an option? (rd)

Topics Discussed

Recurrent gent from 2013 has not yet had HT .., and fears it; successful hyperbaric Tx for RT cystitis; update on capaversitib trial; ‘young’ man starts IHT after 10 years; how many chemo cycles??; more IHT; what’s the right HT combo with heart issues? … and the right SPOT RT?; very low level recurrence after 6 years; Herb’s brief update; Next Generation Sequencing; dispelling the fear of HT

Chat Log

David Muslin sent · 5:41 PM also Joe, attending these Ancan meetings educated me enough to no longer fear our disease. We welcome your attendance.

AnCan- rick sent · 5:53 PM UPCOMING WEBINAR What is a Pelvic Floor Physical Therapist – & why you need one Wed, 3/39 8pm Eastern Register https://tinyurl.com/4sdhzucf Dr. Rachel Rubin + Pelvic PT Tracy Sher Wed, Mar 29, 2023 8:00 PM – 9:30 PM EDT

AnCan- rick sent · 6:05 PM capavasertib + docetaxel

Richard Tolbert sent · 6:11 PM Jim, I was able to receive $3500 from the Co-Payment Assistance Fund which covered my Feb Orgovyx and Xtandi. Earlier today I received some fiunding support from a private healthcare company which will help. Thanks for asking Jim!

Peter Kafka-Maui sent · 6:14 PM See you all next week. Got to drive my grandchildren down to beach volleyball practice.

George Rovder, Arlington VA sent · 6:14 PM Thank you Gentlemen for your wisdom and caring. Gotta go now.

Jim B sent · 6:15 PM Great to hear that worked out for you! I think that I may have mentioned that I had success with the Mark Cuban Cost Plus web site which gave me access to medications at remarkably low costs.

Richard Tolbert sent · 6:23 PM You did mentioned Mark Cuban Cost Plus. I checked and Orgovoyx and Xtandi are not available since there is no generic. I am also still working to gain co-payment support from Astellas and Myovant.

Henry sent · 6:38 PM What about orgovyx? Just one pill per day, + 2nd line.

Henry sent · 6:39 PM ok Hey Prof. Herb — what do you have to lose from ADT + abi? Everyone cares about you, Prof. Herb!!

AnCan- rick sent · 6:50 PM UPCOMING WEBINAR What is a Pelvic Floor Physical Therapist – & why you need one Wed, 3/29 8pm Eastern Register here https://tinyurl.com/4sdhzucf

Frank Fabish Columbus OH sent · 6:52 PM Got to go guys. Praying for you Herb.

Len Sierra sent · 6:53 PM Continuous vs Intermittent ADT: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamaoncology/fullarticle/2436836 Conclusions and Relevance Intermittent androgen deprivation was not inferior to continuous therapy with respect to the overall survival. Some quality-of-life criteria seemed improved with intermittent therapy. Intermittent androgen deprivation can be considered as an alternative option in patients with recurrent or metastatic prostate cancer.

AnCan- rick sent · 7:00 PM peterk@ancan.org

Peter M sent · 7:02 PM Good night gents!

Bob G sent · 7:02 PM Goodnight all.

Michael Wyn, Colorado Springs sent · 7:15 PM thx. g nite

gary peters sent · 7:19 PM Thanks, guys. Take care. G

Hi-Risk/Recurrent/Advanced PCa Video Chat, Apr 11, 2023

Hi-Risk/Recurrent/Advanced PCa Video Chat, Mar 14, 2023

Hi-Risk/Recurrent/Advanced PCa Video Chat, Mar 14, 2023

AnCan is grateful to the following sponsors for making this recording posssible: Bayer, Foundation Medicine, Pfizer, Janssen, Myriad Gentics, Myovant & Telix

All AnCan’s groups are free and drop-in … join us in person sometime! You can find out more about our 12 monthly prostate cancer meetings at https://ancan.org/prostate-cancer/
Sign up to receive a weekly Reminder/Newsletter for this Group or others at https://ancan.org/contact-us/

Join our other free and drop in groups:
Men (Only) Speaking Freely …1st & 3rd Thursdays @ 8.00 pm Eastern
https://ancan.org/men-speaking-freely/
Veterans Healthcare … 4th Thursday @ 8.00 pm Eastern https://ancan.org/veterans/

Editor’s pick: Fateful turns: Belated PSA test, inappropriate focal ablation, diagnosing cancer as BPH. (bn)

Topics discussed
Bad news after 6-year pause in PSA testing; focal ablation to avoid side effects ends in regret; huge prostate but doctor keeps treating BPH; sudden passing of Dennis McGuire from brain aneurysm; taken “right to the edge” with painful BAT side effects; simultaneously treating two kinds of prostate cancer; complications (lung puncture?) after port insertion; are wild hormones signaling a neuroendocrine tumor?; how many PSMA PETs will insurance pay for?; trouble with statins and darolutamide; veteran of intermittent therapy starting ADT again; newcomer can’t find a niche in AnCan’s prostate groups.

Chat log

AnCan Barniskis Room · 6:13 PM Also Telix … who make Ga68 PSMA 11 Illucix

AnCan Barniskis Room · 6:36 PM https://pathology.jhu.edu/patient-care/second-opinions

Len Sierra · 6:37 PM Jonathan Epstein 410-955-5043

Julian – Houston · 6:42 PM Dr Walser at UTMD in Galveston does FLA

John A · 6:59 PM Going to another group, see you guys next week

Dave Fitch · 7:12 PM Oops, would a condom catheter help instead foley?

AnCan Barniskis Room · 7:24 PM Truly saddened to receive the news about my dear Chicago Booth Alum, Dennis McGuire

J. Ward · 7:26 PM I’m really heartbroken for Dennis and his family. He was such a good egg — a classic upper midwesterner who was just so kind.

Dave Fitch · 7:31 PM Leaving for PSMA Zoom presentation, by Dr Ryan

Harry Spila · 7:54 PM hang in there Herb.

AnCan Barniskis Room · 8:06 PM Bempedoic Acid https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bempedoic_acid#:~:text=Bempedoic%20acid%2C%20sold%20under%20the,(high%20blood%20cholesterol%20levels).

Harry Spila · 8:10 PM I get cramps too. I’m on 80 mg Lipitor and darolutimide

AnCan Barniskis Room · 8:10 PM Bempedoic Acid = Nexletol

Herb · 8:14 PM i gotta go soon

Len Sierra · 8:16 PM Good luck, Herb.

Frank Fabish Columbus OH · 8:17 PM on your side Herb. Fight on.

Frank Fabish Columbus OH · 8:19 PM Have to go. Thanks guys for sharing.

Julian – Houston · 8:21 PM great conversations – Rooting for you Herb!