Hi-Risk/Recurrent/Advanced PCa Video Chat, Jan 15, 2024
AnCan is grateful to the following sponsors for making this recording possible: Bayer, Foundation Medicine, Janssen, Myriad Genetics, Myovant, Telix & Blue Earth Diagnostics.
Welcome AnCan’s first 2024 webinar with two blockbuster headliners — GU med onc Dr. Oliver Sartor and nuclear medicine pioneer Dr. Phillip H. Kuo — “Radionuclide Diagnostics & Theranostics – Theory and Clinical Practice Meet!” Register now at https://tinyurl.com/radionuclide – free as always. Two globally recognized experts introduce us to radionuclide scans and treatment, and help us understand how best to coordinate our care team.
AnCan respectfully notes that it does not accept sponsored promotion. Any drugs, protocols or devices recommended in our discussions are based solely on anecdotal peer experience or clinical evidence.
AnCan cannot and does not provide medical advice. We encourage you to discuss anything you hear in our sessions with your own medical team.
AnCan reminds all Participants that Adverse Events experienced from prescribed drugs or protocols should be reported to the pharmaceutical manufacturer or the FDA Adverse Event Reporting System (FAERS). To do so call 1-800-332-1066 or download interactive FDA Form 3500 https://www.fda.gov/media/76299/download
AnCan’s Prostate Cancer Forum is back (https://ancan.org/forums). If you’d like to comment on anything you see in our Recordings or read in our Reminders, just sign up and go right ahead. You can also click on the Forum icon at the top right of the webpage.
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Editor’s Pick: Four new men give us plenty to talk about. (bn)
Topics Discussed
With “innumerable” metastases, he braces for chemotherapy; urologist blames the patient for ADT mood swings, and also fails to prescribe second-line drug; focal therapy might be right for post-radiation recurrence; PSA nearly 50 but biopsy claims he’s Gleason 6 — prostatectomy proves otherwise; colon cancer’s genetic tie-in with prostate cancer; drug holiday’s an option, but keep calm when PSA creeps up; “I’ve been to the four corners of the United States” seeing doctors — Dr. E is next; don’t put off somatic testing, and consider abiraterone monotherapy; let precision medicine target your BRCA before considering a clinical trial; vomiting worsens with with each Pluvicto round — seek palliative care!; wobbly testosterone recovery; even without testosterone, getting stronger through exercise.
Chat Log
Peter Kafka – Maui · 8:23 PM
somatic genetic testing
AnCan – rick · 8:28 PM
Men Speaking Freely https://ancan.org/men-speaking-freely/ Thursday, 8.00 pm Eastern in this room. Just drop-in
AnCan – rick · 8:37 PM
Genitourinary Medical Oncologist
Peter Kafka – Maui · 8:39 PM
peterk@ancan.org
AnCan – rick · 8:46 PM
Channing Paller https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/profiles/results/directory/profile/3138167/channing-paller
AnCan – rick · 8:50 PM
PROMISE https://www.prostatecancerpromise.org/?utm_campaign=ANCAN&utm_medium=link&utm_source=Webinar
AnCan – rick · 8:54 PM
Steven don’t forget Men Speaking Freely on Thursday
dennis NJ · 9:10 PM
Thank you everyone
AnCan – rick · 9:17 PM
Elisabeth Heath https://www.karmanos.org/karmanos/karmanos-physician-directory/heath-elisabeth-8225
Frank Fabish Columbus OH · 9:39 PM
Thanks everyone. got to go.
Gary – New Jersey · 9:41 PM
Thank you everyone for the discussion and your suggestions. Have to go now.
“Thomas” Matica WA · 9:52 PM
Thanks, Len. I’ll look it up.
Len Sierra · 9:54 PM
HK2 : Human kallikrein-related peptidase 2 (hK2) is a tumor-associated member of the kallikrein family that shares significant homology to prostate-specific antigen and is minimally expressed in normal non-prostate tissues.
Jeff betz · 10:02 PM
Gotta go guys thank you!
AnCan – rick · 10:08 PM
https://ancan.org/your-dental-health/ Dental Posts
Len Sierra · 10:12 PM
Phase 2 study suggests that Abi monotherapy may be as effective as Abi + ADT. Published in journal Nature. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41391-022-00533-6
Steven Roberts · 10:13 PM
ok, fellas I got to drop….talk to you all next week and thanks
Hi-Risk/Recurrent/Advanced PCa Video Chat, Jan 9, 2024
AnCan is grateful to the following sponsors for making this recording possible: Bayer, Foundation Medicine, Janssen, Myriad Genetics, Myovant, Telix & Blue Earth Diagnostics.
Welcome AnCan’s first 2024 webinar with two blockbuster headliners — GU med onc Dr. Oliver Sartor and nuclear medicine pioneer Dr. Phillip H. Kuo — “Radionuclide Diagnostics & Theranostics – Theory and Clinical Practice Meet!” Register now at https://tinyurl.com/radionuclide – free as always. Two globally recognized experts introduce us to radionuclide scans and treatment, and help us understand how best to coordinate our care team.
AnCan respectfully notes that it does not accept sponsored promotion. Any drugs, protocols or devices recommended in our discussions are based solely on anecdotal peer experience or clinical evidence.
AnCan cannot and does not provide medical advice. We encourage you to discuss anything you hear in our sessions with your own medical team.
AnCan reminds all Participants that Adverse Events experienced from prescribed drugs or protocols should be reported to the pharmaceutical manufacturer or the FDA Adverse Event Reporting System (FAERS). To do so call 1-800-332-1066 or download interactive FDA Form 3500 https://www.fda.gov/media/76299/download
AnCan’s Prostate Cancer Forum is back (https://ancan.org/forums). If you’d like to comment on anything you see in our Recordings or read in our Reminders, just sign up and go right ahead. You can also click on the Forum icon at the top right of the webpage.
All AnCan’s groups are free and drop-in … join us in person sometime! You can find out more about our 12 monthly prostate cancer meetings at https://ancan.org/prostate-cancer/ Sign up to receive a weekly Reminder/Newsletter for this Group or others at https://ancan.org/contact-us/
Editor’s Pick: Three things that are slow to change — liver enzymes, testosterone, and hormone sensitivity. (bn)
Topics Discussed
Skip the Lupron and do 2nd-line monotherapy off the bat?; dealing with ADT via antidepressants; he’s looking down the road at Pluvicto; weighing two clinical trials — or none; great first encounter with Dr. Heath; hey, don’t you want to know the Gleason score?; what made his cancer mutations jump?; hold off Keytruda if there’s no MSI?; liver tests slow to recover after abi; stay calm restarting ADT after a drug holiday; back chasing ZZZs; a few zaps with X-rays, or many with protons?; sciatica probably wasn’t the Lupron shot; how quick a rebound after Lupron?; an unexpected test (CEA) from Dr. E; radiation cystitis 8 years out
Chat Log
Steve Roux, MI · 6:13 PM
I’m glad to hear that because I ordered that same one today!
Hi-Risk/Recurrent/Advanced PCa Video Chat, Dec 4, 2023
AnCan is grateful to the following sponsors for making this recording possible: Bayer, Foundation Medicine, Pfizer, Janssen, Myriad Genetics, Myovant, Telix & Blue Earth Diagnostics.
AnCan respectfully notes that it does not accept sponsored promotion. Any drugs, protocols or devices recommended in our discussions are based solely on anecdotal peer experience or clinical evidence.
AnCan cannot and does not provide medical advice. We encourage you to discuss anything you hear in our sessions with your own medical team.
AnCan reminds all Participants that Adverse Events experienced from prescribed drugs or protocols should be reported to the pharmaceutical manufacturer or the FDA Adverse Event Reporting System (FAERS). To do so call 1-800-332-1066 or download interactive FDA Form 3500 https://www.fda.gov/media/76299/download
AnCan’s Prostate Cancer Forum is back (https://ancan.org/forums). If you’d like to comment on anything you see in our Recordings or read in our Reminders, just sign up and go right ahead. You can also click on the Forum icon at the top right of the webpage.
All AnCan’s groups are free and drop-in … join us in person sometime! You can find out more about our 12 monthly prostate cancer meetings at https://ancan.org/prostate-cancer/ Sign up to receive a weekly Reminder/Newsletter for this Group or others at https://ancan.org/contact-us/
Editor’s Pick: Take a trip with ketamine!! + lotsa useful tips this week. (rd)
Topics Discussed
Only ONE QB, and make sure they are the best choice; out-of-touch rad onc; Keytruda fails – moving on to Pluvicto; ketamine provides remarkable insight BUT don’t overdo it; Mettle Health & BJ Miller; community med onc doesn’t provide standard of care; is a PCa collective voice feasible?… old hands think not!; name the doc you want to see via your provider portal; renal cysts are rarely malignant; use FMI’s mobile phlebotomist to save time; how YOU can load images to MyChart; what to do about ADT fatigue… possibly over exercising??; is PSA too low for liquid biopsy analysis when you have known mets?; hotel deals available for cancer treatment.
Anti androgens: abiraterone, enzalutamide, apalutamide, darolutamide
Bob Gsent · 7:02 PM
Have to go now. I’ll be back a lot sooner. Have a good night.
Jim Marshall, Alexandria, VAsent · 7:10 PM
DOD’s Center for Prostate Disease Research gets $110M per year for Prostate Research. They hire contractors to analyze the proposals and do not go outside their own sphere. Jim Marshall
Hi-Risk/Recurrent/Advanced PCa Video Chat, Nov 28, 2023
AnCan is grateful to the following sponsors for making this recording possible: Bayer, Foundation Medicine, Pfizer, Janssen, Myriad Genetics, Myovant, Telix & Blue Earth Diagnostics.
AnCan respectfully notes that it does not accept sponsored promotion. Any drugs, protocols or devices recommended in our discussions are based solely on anecdotal peer experience or clinical evidence.
AnCan cannot and does not provide medical advice. We encourage you to discuss anything you hear in our sessions with your own medical team.
AnCan reminds all Participants that Adverse Events experienced from prescribed drugs or protocols should be reported to the pharmaceutical manufacturer or the FDA Adverse Event Reporting System (FAERS). To do so call 1-800-332-1066 or download interactive FDA Form 3500 https://www.fda.gov/media/76299/download
AnCan’s Prostate Cancer Forum is back (https://ancan.org/forums). If you’d like to comment on anything you see in our Recordings or read in our Reminders, just sign up and go right ahead. You can also click on the Forum icon at the top right of the webpage.
All AnCan’s groups are free and drop-in … join us in person sometime! You can find out more about our 12 monthly prostate cancer meetings at https://ancan.org/prostate-cancer/ Sign up to receive a weekly Reminder/Newsletter for this Group or others at https://ancan.org/contact-us/
Editor’s Pick: Advocating for what you want may not be advocating for what’s best for you. (bn)
Topics Discussed
PSA in the 60s, but Gleason 3+4 — time for a PSMA scan; SUV maxes of FDG PET and PSMA PET are unrelated and can’t be compared; don’t underestimate the chills and aches when starting zoledronic acid; Keytruda surpasses his expectations — a Christmas miracle? — but another man fails to respond; surprisingly good response after switching from daro to abi; docs agree to drop ADT — but advocating for what you want may not be advocating for what’s best for you; ADT is an easier ride when you’re knowledgeable and prepared; reminder: no cold turkey with prednisone; could monotherapy be a safer choice than ditching hard-to-tolerate ADT?; doc balks at genetic testing that could uncover therapy options
Chat Log
Richard Wassersug (Vancouver) · 6:09 PM
Myovant is now Sumitomo Pharma
AnCan – rick · 6:14 PM
Gleason Grade, right group????
Julian – Houston · 6:14 PM
I did read that Myovant got bought out!
Peter Kafka – Maui · 6:14 PM
He probably should be in the Low and Intermediate group.
Steven Friedman · 6:31 PM
stevenfriedman55@yahoo.com
AnCan – rick · 6:36 PM
peterk@ancan.org
Peter Kafka – Maui · 6:37 PM
peterk@ancan.org
Peter Kafka – Maui · 6:44 PM
Sounds similar to Len’s experience recently.
Len Sierra · 6:44 PM
Almost identical to me.
Unknown · 6:44 PM
My wife Ellen had the same response she like you and Len
J. Ward · 6:59 PM
I made it an hour, gents, and wanted everyone to know about the Reclast side effects. I’m going to take Dr. John’s advice and hop off the call to get rest. Good night!
Len Sierra · 7:15 PM
From RADICALS-HD trial: After a median follow-up of 9 years, the study investigators found that 24 months of ADT were superior to 6 months (HR 0.77, 95% CI [0.61, 0.97]; 72% vs 78% at 10 years) with respect to the primary endpoint of metastasis-free survival (MFS).
Unknown · 7:20 PM
Why not try mono therapy first with Dara?
Larry Fish · 7:26 PM
please spell this drug-suppliment
AnCan – rick · 7:26 PM
fenbendazole
Jim Marshall, Melbourne, FL on Vac · 7:26 PM
I managed my ADT + Abi for 5 years and it did not slow me down. Being diagnosed at 73 and now 79 has slowed me down more. Aerobic Exercise has been the key even when my body said it was exhausted, will power got me on the bike which promoted recovery. jim
AnCan – rick · 7:48 PM
Elizabeth Heath Karmanos
AnCan – rick · 7:48 PM
https://www.karmanos.org/karmanos/karmanos-physician-directory/heath-elisabeth-8225
Frank Fabish Columbus OH · 8:00 PM
See you guys. good session.
Steve Roux, MI · 8:07 PM
Guys, really need some dinner; see you next meeting. Great session and thanks to all of you!
Len Sierra · 8:07 PM
BXCL701 showed good results when used with Keytruda in both enzalutamide resistatnt mCRPC and with small cell neuroendocrine cancer.
Len Sierra · 8:09 PM
Chromogranin A (CGA) and neuron-specific enolase (NSE) levels are biomarkers for NEPC. Also, they are synaptophysin positive
Hi-Risk/Recurrent/Advanced PCa Video Chat, Nov 20, 2023
HAPPY THANKSGIVING TO ALL OUR VIEWERS… may it be peaceful and full of gratitude.
AnCan is grateful to the following sponsors for making this recording possible: Bayer, Foundation Medicine, Pfizer, Janssen, Myriad Genetics, Myovant, Telix & Blue Earth Diagnostics.
AnCan respectfully notes that it does not accept sponsored promotion. Any drugs, protocols or devices recommended in our discussions are based solely on anecdotal peer experience or clinical evidence.
AnCan cannot and does not provide medical advice. We encourage you to discuss anything you hear in our sessions with your own medical team.
AnCan reminds all Participants that Adverse Events experienced from prescribed drugs or protocols should be reported to the pharmaceutical manufacturer or the FDA Adverse Event Reporting System (FAERS). To do so call 1-800-332-1066 or download interactive FDA Form 3500 https://www.fda.gov/media/76299/download
AnCan’s Prostate Cancer Forum is back (https://ancan.org/forums). If you’d like to comment on anything you see in our Recordings or read in our Reminders, just sign up and go right ahead. You can also click on the Forum icon at the top right of the webpage.
All AnCan’s groups are free and drop-in … join us in person sometime! You can find out more about our 12 monthly prostate cancer meetings at https://ancan.org/prostate-cancer/ Sign up to receive a weekly Reminder/Newsletter for this Group or others at https://ancan.org/contact-us/
Editor’s Pick: Persevere to the very end to hear us question docs who recommend Pluvicto knowing some mets won’t respond (rd)
Topics Discussed
Different MRI presentations can confuse; balance and falling; do dormant prostate cells express PSMA?; Pluvicto offers no quick result – Ac225 next??; don’t rush the prednisone taper; does your assigned doc have the right qualifications?; urinary issues lead to kidney failure – and a neck brace!; Orgovyx causes fewer hot flashes for some men; with mCRPC, don’t anguish over 0.1-0.3 PSA fluctuations; do historic doubling patterns hold when PCa recurs?; PCa recurs only IN the radiated gland – what next after 6 mo. HT?; ultra sensitive test redundant post-RT; does Pluvicto make sense for man with hybrid PCa?
Chat Log
Michael Wyn, Denversent · 6:15 PM
Thanks everyone. Good bye
Phil Dipaolasent · 6:19 PM
Hi, I would like a few minutes during the session today, if possible! Thanks, Phil Dipaola
sent · 6:21 PM
Phil – you have to be here in the first 10 minutes to be sure of time. PLEASE REFER TO OUR REMINDER. That’s the protocol with so many attendees.. If we have time at the end, we’ll certainly get to you.
sent · 6:22 PM
Were you tested for neuropathy?
Bill Franklinsent · 6:31 PM
Joel, if at all possible, don’t hesitate to ask for a physical therapy referral from your PCM. All the stuff Larry talked about would be worked on.
Bill Franklinsent · 6:37 PM
What age is considered elderly now? This is a serious question. Sometimes all doctors think about is the number on the age line. But many of us are in great shape.
TonyFigsent · 6:39 PM
I thought the Surf sound in Florida got louder in the winter. Maybe it is elderly shuffling their feet.
AnCan – ricksent · 6:52 PM
Google …… Alpha emitter vs Beta emitter PSMA radionuclide therapeutics
I will. turn 75 tomorrow, and I do not consider myself elderly!
My wife was a geriatric nurse. She had no time for doctors who blamed problems on an individual’s age.
AnCan – ricksent · 7:10 PM
Happy B-day to Alan Babcock!!!
JEFFERSONsent · 7:11 PM
thank you so much
Julian – Houstonsent · 7:14 PM
Happy B-day Alan!!!
Jimmy Greenfieldsent · 7:20 PM
Biological age , not the number. In my parent’s time 70 was elderly. People stopped moving. I know otherwise ‘healthy”50 year olds who are truly old, physically and/or behaviorally. Unfit, set in their ways etc. Then you have birthday boy Alan Babcock- 75 years young if ever I saw it.
sent · 7:21 PM
Hi I have a question about PSA test sensitivity. For the first time in about 6 months my level went below the ‘undetectable’ level as my local Kaiser defines it, <.06. Very grateful for that. Going forward, I’m wondering if I should be pushing Kaiser for a test with greater sensitivity? When people talk about their PSA testing I usually hear specificity below .06, but I’m not sure if there would be value for me in that ‘extra’ sensitivity. I am 3.5 years past initial radiation treatments not taking any medications at this point.
Alan Babcocksent · 7:22 PM
Thanks Jimmy
Jim Marshall, Jupiter, FL on Vacsent · 7:26 PM
You say not under treatment but have you been not being treatec for 3.5 yrs or on a treatment holiday. I’d press for PSA tests every 4 months. I am Kaiser too. but on treatment holiday gettng PSA test every month.
sent · 7:34 PM
Thank you Jim Marshall for the question; after radiation I did 2 years of Zytiga/prednisone, and haven’t yet had the need to restart.
Jim Marshall, Jupiter, FL on Vacsent · 7:36 PM
uugst PSA test ever 1-2 months because you are on holiday. In fact I get all the blood tests I got when under treatment. Kaiser has no problem with in in the DC area.
Jim Marshall, Jupiter, FL on Vacsent · 7:38 PM
although if the thought is you are in remission, then 3 months for a year and then either every 4 or 6 months going forward not needing all the other tests. Jim M
sent · 7:41 PM
Thank you Jim M!
Alan Msent · 7:46 PM
Matt, I have had the ultrasensitive PSA test done by Labcorp for 10 years. I prefer to see small changes and get an early warning of pending increases or decreased in PSA. I recommend it as long as it won’t give you anxiety.
Julian – Houstonsent · 7:47 PM
I am also doing the ultrasensitive PSA test every 3 months!
Alan Msent · 7:52 PM
Need to sign off guys. Good night.
Jim Marshall, Jupiter, FL on Vacsent · 8:03 PM
Kaiser has always given me PSA tests with 2 decimal places from the start 6.25 years ago. It has been less than 0.01 ever since I was on ABI + Lupron and into 15 months holiday.
