Hi-Risk/Recurrent/Advanced PrCa Video Chat, Nov 17, 2025
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Topics Discussed
Signs of recurrence after 8 years; lymphedema and RT; does Newbie understand his proposed RT – is it optimal?; signs of BRCA2 recurrence post RP; doublet or triplet for denovo Mx Gent with IDC-P; explaining types of HT treatment; likely PSMA negative Gent challenged to confirm recurrence; PSA spike & fall for IHT man; fatigue after ARSI is added; estradiol supplement experience; pushing exercise helps mitigate HT; IDC-P teatment challenge – RP vs RT; bisphosphonate vs denosumab as bone strengthener
Chat
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Larry (Alaska)
sent: 6:17 PM
Was there a decipher test? indicating aggressiveness?
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Larry (Alaska)
sent: 6:24 PM
I wonder how old those NIH studies Barbara and Joe are reading?
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Eric James; Tyler TX
sent: 6:29 PM
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Eric James; Tyler TX
sent: 6:31 PM
The higher rates of lymphedema are after pelvic irradiation following lymph node dissection
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AnCan–John A
sent: 6:31 PM
Thx Eric
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Bob Y. Los Angeles
sent: 6:34 PM
Question: for a Decipher Prostate Test… how do I get that genomic test? Does my doctor order it or what?
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AnCan – rick
sent: 6:35 PM
Sandy Liu https://www.cityofhope.org/sandy-liu
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Eric James; Tyler TX
sent: 6:35 PM
Bob Y. Yes, generally done from your biopsy tissue
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Jim Marshall, Veteran, Alexandria, VA
sent: 6:35 PM
There is Germline test and Somatic Test nothing to do with Decipher. Jim
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Bob Y. Los Angeles
sent: 6:38 PM
Thanks. I’ll ask my urologist to run the Decipher test from my biopsy tissue.
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Jeff Marchi – San Francisco
sent: 6:43 PM
get genetic test free here
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Jeff Marchi – San Francisco
sent: 6:43 PM
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Luther Blake
sent: 6:46 PM
have to run gents, have a good evening
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AnCan – rick
sent: 5:57 PM
GoTo technical support 877 582 7011
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AnCan–John A
sent: 6:48 PM
ming.zhou@mtsinai.org, or https://profiles.mountsinai.org/ming-zhou OR
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AnCan–John A
sent: 6:49 PM
advanceduropathoogy.com 516 280 7930
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Jeff Marchi – San Francisco
sent: 6:53 PM
while that email may work I got a different address
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Jeff Marchi – San Francisco
sent: 6:53 PM
Send an email to Ming.zhou@mountsinai.org to inquire about a second opinion and ask for his specific instructions for the process.
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Jim Stewart Reno, NV
sent: 7:07 PM
have to sign off, thanks all and have a good night
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Jon McPhee Toronto
sent: 7:33 PM
Have to go. Thanks for the meeting.
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Larry (Alaska)
sent: 7:37 PM
AI just told me that 1- micro-ultrasound does not require a contrast dye and uses equipment that is more accessible than MRI. 2- Other than that, they seem to be seen as complementary rather than competing. MRI is better at detecting some lesions and micro-ultrasound better at others.
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Stan Friedman
sent: 7:48 PM
Sorry. Need to sign off. Will update on my pluvicto treatments next week. Thanks.
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Jim Marshall, Veteran, Alexandria, VA
sent: 7:53 PM
Chocolate is a veggie!!!!!! Jim
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TonyFig
sent: 7:53 PM
Rick will get a 3 knot boost when rowing with caffeine
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St
sent: 7:56 PM
my experience has been that the fatigue comes mainly from lack of estrogen, not from the lack of T. An E2 patch helped me enormously
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Bob Y. Los Angeles
sent: 7:57 PM
I had a couple of short questions, but I have to leave now. I’ve had an MRI and a biopsy, Gleason 4+5. I’m waiting to get a PET Scan on Dec 5th. I was hoping to get the PET earlier and so I made an appt with a urologic oncologist, Timothy Daskivich for a 2nd opinion on Nov 26th. Now I’ll be going to see him without being able to show him the PET results. I’m wondering if that appt is still valuable.
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Barbara and Joe
sent: 7:59 PM
why do you have to take something as toxic as prednisone with abiraterone?
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Don Rogers
sent: 8:00 PM
got to go
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Eric James; Tyler TX
sent: 8:00 PM
Barbara and Joe: side effects of abiraterone. Your body stops producing cortisol on abiraterone so it needs to be replaced with something similar.
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AnCan–John A
sent: 8:00 PM
Barbara and Joe the body absolutely needs the corticosteroid.
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Jim Marshall, Veteran, Alexandria, VA
sent: 8:01 PM
Abi stops the Adrenal Glands which makes Cortisol. Presidnsone makes the Cortisol.
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Jim Marshall, Veteran, Alexandria, VA
sent: 8:02 PM
One needs Cortisol. Jim Marshall
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AnCan – rick
sent: 8:10 PM
Estradiol seminar w. Steve S https://ancan.org/talking-estradiol-e2-for-recurrent-and-advanced-prostate-cancer/
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Keith H. (southern Oregon)
sent: 8:15 PM
thanks for all this, I got to go, but grateful for expertise and this group.
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Thomas Matica
sent: 8:21 PM
Short update. Can wait till next meeting. Got to run. Thanks everyone.
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Barbara and Joe
sent: 8:23 PM
I hope it’s a low dose of predisone — it just about killed my mother with her rheumatoid arthritis.
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Jim Marshall, Veteran, Alexandria, VA
sent: 8:23 PM
5mg of Prednisone is used. Jim M
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Jim Marshall, Veteran, Alexandria, VA
sent: 8:24 PM
Although once you stop it one still should taper off versus Cold Turkey. Jim
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Steve White
sent: 8:28 PM
Have to drop…thanks again
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Alfredo in Houston, TX
sent: 8:35 PM
I must drop off now, thank you everyone; stay well.
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Mark N
sent: 8:42 PM
Thanks!!
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Barbara and Joe
sent: 8:43 PM
thanks so much everybody.