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Views expressed in this Recording are solely the opinion of AnCan Foundation, our Moderators and Participants.
AnCan does not accept sponsored promotion. Any drugs, protocols or devices discussed are based solely on anecdotal peer experience or clinical evidence.
AnCan cannot and does not provide medical advice. We encourage you to discuss anything you hear in our sessions with your own medical team.
AnCan reminds all Participants that Adverse Events experienced from prescribed drugs or protocols should be reported to the pharmaceutical manufacturer or the FDA Adverse Event Reporting System (FAERS). To do so call 1-800-332-1066 or download interactive FDA Form 3500 https://www.fda.gov/media/76299/download
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Editor’s Pick: Don’t blame it on the prostate cancer… two Gents report tenderness but is it something else?
Topics Discussed
Newbie prescribed singlet HT when doublet was SoC – don’t switch w.3 months left but change docs; is cystoscopy the right procedure?; IHT after 3 years – but what bout shortness of breath; is tenderness from exercise or cancer?; is HT the right first step on BCR; insurance declines Axumin; starting AMG509 xaluritamig trial; stable on mono daro at 86; just finished 6th Pluvicto for foamy cell PrCa; don’t fret over tiny PSA moves; is chest tenderness down to HT or a previous cancer?; not eligible for Capitello trial – needs 2nd opinion on intensification
Chat
AnCan – Ric sent: 3:04 PM
GoTo Help 877 582 7011
Danny sent: 3:13 PM
Have to duck out for a couple of minutes.
David D Seattle sent: 3:14 PM
David joined by phone, I have an update
Len sent: 3:31 PM
Yes, my brother in arms, I was at the beach today. Water temp was 73. Re: your email – did you complete your chest RT?
Hello Steve! Yes, I’ll need to step up my sunblock to spf 50. UV index is high every day. How’s by you?
Adrian (Tony) Bruno sent: 3:51 PM
ask him what his hemoglobin level is
Steve Roux, Up North, Michigan sent: 4:00 PM
I got to run gang. So good to see you all. Great meeting as usual!
Joseph (Sean) Siry – Laguna Woods, CA. sent: 4:04 PM
Dinner is on the table, so I will have to go also– & I can report next time the good news.
AnCan – Rick sent: 4:06 PM
For everyone – Please tell us if you think you need to leave early…(should have added, “and you asked for time’:rd)
Bob Y — Los Angeles sent: 4:13 PM
I also need to leave early. Happy to see all of you.
Jim E., Ft. Worth T sent: 4:17 PM
While I haven’t had “Germline” testing, I had a complimentary gene testing through a group called Color, and they indicated no concerns for increased risk. I have logged in and opened my biopsy and PSMA PET results.
Bruce Schrimpf sent: 4:27 PM
I may have b e to leave there is a tornado warning for areas just to the South of my home. BDS
AnCan thanks the following sponsors for making this recording possible: Novartis, Telix, Blue Earth Diagnostics and Foundation Medicine.
Views expressed in this Recording are solely the opinion of AnCan Foundation, our Moderators and Participants.
AnCan does not accept sponsored promotion. Any drugs, protocols or devices discussed are based solely on anecdotal peer experience or clinical evidence.
AnCan cannot and does not provide medical advice. We encourage you to discuss anything you hear in our sessions with your own medical team.
AnCan reminds all Participants that Adverse Events experienced from prescribed drugs or protocols should be reported to the pharmaceutical manufacturer or the FDA Adverse Event Reporting System (FAERS). To do so call 1-800-332-1066 or download interactive FDA Form 3500 https://www.fda.gov/media/76299/download
All AnCan’s groups are free and drop-in … join us in person sometime! You can find out more about our 12 monthly prostate cancer meetings at https://ancan.org/prostate-cancer/ Sign up to receive a weekly Reminder/Newsletter for this Group or others at https://ancan.org/contact-us/
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Men (Only) Speaking Freely…1st & 3rd Thursdays @ 8.00 pm Eastern https://ancan.org/men-speaking-freely/
Veterans Healthcare Navigation… 1st & 3rd Tuesdays @ 8.00 pm Eastern Schmier Room https://ancan.org/veterans/
Veterans Speaking freely… 4th Tuesday @ @ 8.00 pm Eastern Schmier Room
Editor’s Pick: Dr. Kwon… either overtreating or undertreating! And… Crestor & Nubeqa don’t mix!
Topics Discussed
Repeat recurrences since 2019 may be down to shorter periods of HT; Gent pushes for Axumin and gets it; should he debulk?; add back E2; is Kwon overtreating with triplet? – get thee to a GU med onc; stable but needs a new GU med onc – or does he?; HT is doing exactly what it should; doing well on mono daro but needs help with back pain; rosuvastatin doesn’t play well with daro; numbers good after stopping HT but fatigue/weakness persists; RT requires self catheterizing; fatigue/weakness could be recent covid; experience with PCPEP
Chat
Alfredo in Wimberley sent: 5:24 PM
UW-OncoPlex™ is a multiplexed mutation assay for tumor tissue that assesses mutations >400 genes related to cancer treatment, prognosis, or diagnosis (listed below). UW-OncoPlex™ is intended for solid tumors.
Sorry Fellas, I need to leave early. I will pose my question next week. Thanks!
“Thomas” M Vancouver,WA sent: 6:45 PM
Pregabalin (Lyrica)
Jim Marshall, Vet Support Grp. Moderator sent: 6:48 PM
Might want to look at PRAVASTATIN as an alternative. I could not handle Crestor or Lipitor. Jim Marshall
Bruce Schrimpf sent: 6:52 PM
The worst thing about a colonoscopy is the prep not the procedure itself. During the procedure you’re in La-la Land!
Jeff Marchi – San Francisco sent: 6:53 PM
exactly
Bruce Schrimpf sent: 6:54 PM
Indeed!
Jeff Marchi – San Francisco sent: 6:55 PM
👍
david opp sent: 6:56 PM
I am going to call it a night, I will try for next Tuesday.
Peter M sent: 7:05 PM
Great meeting! Good night!
“Thomas” M Vancouver,WA sent: 7:07 PM
Excuse me, gents. Leaving the meeting. Thanks to all.
Pierre D., Olean NY sent: 7:14 PM
I joined PC-PEP a week ago and find it helpful.
Bruce Schrimpf sent: 7:15 PM
I had COVID during the time I was on Lupron. I was retired so I took noon time naps. I believe in the less medication the better! It makes me feel better and improves my bank account!
Joseph (Sean) Siry – Laguna Woods, CA. sent: 7:17 PM
Have a healthy week
Bruce Schrimpf sent: 7:18 PM
Always good seeing and hearing all of you. Good night (Guten Nacht Auf Deutsch). BDS
AnCan thanks the following sponsors for making this recording possible: Novartis, Telix, Blue Earth Diagnostics and Foundation Medicine.
Views expressed in this Recording are solely the opinion of AnCan Foundation, our Moderators and Participants.
AnCan does not accept sponsored promotion. Any drugs, protocols or devices discussed are based solely on anecdotal peer experience or clinical evidence.
AnCan cannot and does not provide medical advice. We encourage you to discuss anything you hear in our sessions with your own medical team.
AnCan reminds all Participants that Adverse Events experienced from prescribed drugs or protocols should be reported to the pharmaceutical manufacturer or the FDA Adverse Event Reporting System (FAERS). To do so call 1-800-332-1066 or download interactive FDA Form 3500 https://www.fda.gov/media/76299/download
All AnCan’s groups are free and drop-in … join us in person sometime! You can find out more about our 12 monthly prostate cancer meetings at https://ancan.org/prostate-cancer/ Sign up to receive a weekly Reminder/Newsletter for this Group or others at https://ancan.org/contact-us/
Join our other free and drop in groups:
Men (Only) Speaking Freely…1st & 3rd Thursdays @ 8.00 pm Eastern https://ancan.org/men-speaking-freely/
Veterans Healthcare Navigation… 1st & 3rd Tuesdays @ 8.00 pm Eastern Schmier Room https://ancan.org/veterans/
Veterans Speaking freely… 4th Tuesday @ @ 8.00 pm Eastern Schmier Room
Editor’s Pick: addressing insomnia… and AnCan helps men switch docs.
Topics Discussed
T3b Gent needs clarification on his Bx before starting treatment; how much HT before discussing intermittent; starting doublet; Nagar suggests IMRT is better for this Gent; switching HT drugs may address castrate resistance; Cialis for nocturia – maybe; potential cardio-onc in Portland, OR; Kishan’s ANDROMEDA trial attractive to men with slow recurrence; can prostate cancer cells be dormant?… follow up post-recording suggests YES.
AnCan thanks the following sponsors for making this recording possible: Novartis, Telix, Blue Earth Diagnostics and Foundation Medicine.
Views expressed in this Recording are solely the opinion of AnCan Foundation, our Moderators and Participants.
AnCan does not accept sponsored promotion. Any drugs, protocols or devices discussed are based solely on anecdotal peer experience or clinical evidence.
AnCan cannot and does not provide medical advice. We encourage you to discuss anything you hear in our sessions with your own medical team.
AnCan reminds all Participants that Adverse Events experienced from prescribed drugs or protocols should be reported to the pharmaceutical manufacturer or the FDA Adverse Event Reporting System (FAERS). To do so call 1-800-332-1066 or download interactive FDA Form 3500 https://www.fda.gov/media/76299/download
All AnCan’s groups are free and drop-in … join us in person sometime! You can find out more about our 12 monthly prostate cancer meetings at https://ancan.org/prostate-cancer/ Sign up to receive a weekly Reminder/Newsletter for this Group or others at https://ancan.org/contact-us/
Join our other free and drop in groups:
Men (Only) Speaking Freely…1st & 3rd Thursdays @ 8.00 pm Eastern https://ancan.org/men-speaking-freely/
Veterans Healthcare Navigation… 1st & 3rd Tuesdays @ 8.00 pm Eastern Schmier Room https://ancan.org/veterans/
Veterans Speaking freely… 4th Tuesday @ @ 8.00 pm Eastern Schmier Room
Editor’s Pick: Toss up between ANDROMEDA trial and dormant cancer discussion
Topics Discussed
T3b Gent needs clarification on his Bx before starting treatment; how much HT before discussing intermittent; starting doublet; Nagar suggests IMRT is better for this Gent; switching HT drugs may address castrate resistance; Cialis for nocturia – maybe; potential cardio-onc in Portland, OR; Kishan’s ANDROMEDA trial attractive to men with slow recurrence; can prostate cancer cells be dormant?… follow up post-recording suggests YES.
Chat
AnCan – Rick sent: 4:58 PM
RJ – please call 877 582 7011 for HELP!!
Dial In 646 749 3129 #222 583 973
Jeff Marchi – San Francisco sent: 5:23 PM
Rajni Sethi is a Radiation Oncologist
Jim Marshall, Vet Support Grp. Moderato sent: 5:33 PM
Dr Jonathan Epstein. Advanced Uropathology of New York 700 Stewart Ave, Suite 101 Garden City, NY 11530 Hours: Monday-Friday 9:00AM – 6:00PM P: 516-760-2037 F: 516-200-3899 jepstein@imppllc.com
Jeff Marchi – San Francisco sent: 5:36 PM
orgovyx
Jeff Marchi – San Francisco sent: 5:38 PM
Ductal is very aggressive, is it really Ductal
Jeff Marchi – San Francisco sent: 5:39 PM
that would call for 2nd
Bob Schwartz, USN, Venice, FL. sent: 5:44 PM
Veterans, in Capt. Jim, We Trust!
Jim Marshall, Vet Support Grp. Moderator sent: 5:45 PM
Jim Marshall, USAF(RET), 703-338-7341. veterans@ancan.org
May be a GU cardiologist: Maros Ferencik OHSU Knight Cardiovascular Institute Cardiology Clinic, Beaverton, OR 1-503-494-1775
Jeff Marchi – San Francisco sent: 6:49 PM
Actinium major problem with dry mouth
Jeff Marchi – San Francisco sent: 6:50 PM
more according to studies
10-25%have severe dry mouth
Larry (Alaska-Estradiol as ADT monotherapy) sent: 6:52 PM
Alpha particles simply have a shorter penetration than beta particles, so cellular damage is more limited to the locations the ligand binds the radioactive material. The problem with both is that the radioactive material is placed everywhere there is uptake of the ligand.
Joseph (Sean) Siry – Laguna Woods, CA. sent: 6:52 PM
So the actinium treatment does not rely on knowing the precise location of the metastasis?
Larry (Alaska-Estradiol as ADT monotherapy) sent: 6:53 PM
Joseph/Sean, both treatments (using ligands) bind to the same cells. The ligand (sort of) “knows” where to bind.
Joseph (Sean) Siry – Laguna Woods, CA. sent: 6:59 PM
my Testosterone is in the 180 + level, would systemic treatment rule me out due to ADT is just started?
AnCan thanks the following sponsors for making this recording possible: Novartis, Telix, Blue Earth Diagnostics and Foundation Medicine.
Views expressed in this Recording are solely the opinion of AnCan Foundation, our Moderators and Participants.
AnCan does not accept sponsored promotion. Any drugs, protocols or devices discussed are based solely on anecdotal peer experience or clinical evidence.
AnCan cannot and does not provide medical advice. We encourage you to discuss anything you hear in our sessions with your own medical team.
AnCan reminds all Participants that Adverse Events experienced from prescribed drugs or protocols should be reported to the pharmaceutical manufacturer or the FDA Adverse Event Reporting System (FAERS). To do so call 1-800-332-1066 or download interactive FDA Form 3500 https://www.fda.gov/media/76299/download
All AnCan’s groups are free and drop-in … join us in person sometime! You can find out more about our 12 monthly prostate cancer meetings at https://ancan.org/prostate-cancer/ Sign up to receive a weekly Reminder/Newsletter for this Group or others at https://ancan.org/contact-us/
Join our other free and drop in groups:
Men (Only) Speaking Freely…1st & 3rd Thursdays @ 8.00 pm Eastern https://ancan.org/men-speaking-freely/
Veterans Healthcare Navigation… 1st & 3rd Tuesdays @ 8.00 pm Eastern Schmier Room https://ancan.org/veterans/
Veterans Speaking freely… 4th Tuesday @ @ 8.00 pm Eastern Schmier Room
Editor’s Pick: Two men recur from low levels, one younger, while a much younger man is denovo metastatic.
Topics Discussed
Fit 87 yr old seeks more treatment ideas; younger man recurs post-LDR brachy for 3+4; – cud be a NCI candidate; 3+3 comes back after 5 yrs as 4+5; PSA stays high but stable after 9 months of doublet – change docs!; Clomid causing heart issues; Long Game candidate gives update; Axumin goes AWOL; another very young Newbie with multiple 5+5 cores needs a GU MO; Gent switches care at MSKCC
Good luck John B. I must ring off for tonight, best wishes to one and all! — Alfredo
Morgan Brooke sent: 4:36 PM
Okay. I thought I was here in the first 10 minutes. I’ll be sure to join earlier next week. Thank you
Jim Marshall, Vet Support Grp. Moderator sent: 4:36 PM
Jack. – welcome to the CLUB!!!!!
Jeff Marchi – San Francisco sent: 4:38 PM
morgan too many new people today
Morgan Brooke sent: 4:38 PM
Understood
Jeff Marchi – San Francisco sent: 4:40 PM
get here 10 minutes before the meeting
Danny sent: 4:50 PM
you looking for folks to speak?
Danny sent: 4:53 PM
Jun 2022 PSA=4 (no actions taken) Nov 2025 PSA=13 Nov 2025 MRI PiRADs=5 Nov 2025 Biopsy Gleason 10 (5+5) Nov 2025 PSMA PET Local pelvic mets Nov 2025 No Genetic germline or somatic adaptations to treat Dec 2025 Started ADT (Nubeqa 1200mg + Orgovyx 120mg) daily Jan 2026 Blood Panel (PSA=0.45 T=11)
Urology: R. Jeffrey Karnes, MD Onc: Elisabeth Heath, MD RadOnc: Anne Rajkumar, MD
AnCan thanks the following sponsors for making this recording possible: Novartis, Telix, Blue Earth Diagnostics and Foundation Medicine.
Views expressed in this Recording are solely the opinion of AnCan Foundation, our Moderators and Participants.
AnCan does not accept sponsored promotion. Any drugs, protocols or devices discussed are based solely on anecdotal peer experience or clinical evidence.
AnCan cannot and does not provide medical advice. We encourage you to discuss anything you hear in our sessions with your own medical team.
AnCan reminds all Participants that Adverse Events experienced from prescribed drugs or protocols should be reported to the pharmaceutical manufacturer or the FDA Adverse Event Reporting System (FAERS). To do so call 1-800-332-1066 or download interactive FDA Form 3500 https://www.fda.gov/media/76299/download
All AnCan’s groups are free and drop-in … join us in person sometime! You can find out more about our 12 monthly prostate cancer meetings at https://ancan.org/prostate-cancer/ Sign up to receive a weekly Reminder/Newsletter for this Group or others at https://ancan.org/contact-us/
Join our other free and drop in groups:
Men (Only) Speaking Freely…1st & 3rd Thursdays @ 8.00 pm Eastern https://ancan.org/men-speaking-freely/
Veterans Healthcare Navigation… 1st & 3rd Tuesdays @ 8.00 pm Eastern Schmier Room https://ancan.org/veterans/
Veterans Speaking freely… 4th Tuesday @ @ 8.00 pm Eastern Schmier Room
Editor’s Pick: AnCan’r considering AMG509 STEAP T-Cell engager; does IDC-P make you high risk?
Topics Discussed
Newbie needs GU MO and doublet; ADT and heart issues; BRCA2 germline Gent progresses after P; no evidence for doublet; long-timer needs to switch treatment; moving from Pluvicto to xaluritamig/ AMG509/ STEAP trial; supplemental E2 discussed by peer – insurance issues, gui9dance on E2 blood levels; IDC-P man on RT asks how much HT; with BCR, doubling time may be more significant guide to BCR than actual PSA level
Chat
Jim Marshall, Vet Support Grp. Moderator sent: 6:33 PM
Joining from the air. No mic available. I just blogged the Estradiol conversation.
AnCan – Rick sent: 7:36 PM
Kishan would say 6 months per his recent meta study
Show Tran the Kishan paper
Jeff Marchi – San Francisco sent: 7:37 PM
has he had genetic testing? it can frequently be associated with genetic issues
AnCan – Rick sent: 7:37 PM
12 months if you’re more aggressive.
Is Spratt the final author
Steve Schuler (Seattle) sent: 7:40 PM
I just wrapped it up a month ago. Now I’m on nothing, no ADT either. I was on Lupron for 2 years, abiraterone also for 2 years, but started a year after the Lupron started (there’s a story there, but later), and then on Estradiol for most of the time I was on abiraterone. But now on nothing. For most of the E2, it was .05mg (50 microgram) patches 2 per week. So a box of 8 lasts you 4 weeks. With GoodRX, those were $13/box
A word about the dose level of the patches: that’s the estimated dose delivery of a patch per day. The amount of E2 in the patch itself is higher, something like 600 microgram is what I remember, but then it releases slowly at an ESTIMATED rate of 50. But that release rate is highly dependent on the amount of fat under the skin, etc. So your milage will vary
Mark N sent: 7:44 PM
Thanks for the feed back!
dan-s alexandria sent: 7:48 PM
thanks Jimmy
Pierre D., Olean, NY sent: 7:52 PM
Thank you all for your input.
Jeffrey G sent: 7:53 PM
We were in the 90s today. Ugh, warmest AZ winter i’ve ever been in. Still, gotta be grateful for warm weather and for a psa of 0.02…Adios
