We had a fascinating webinar on August 29th, a debate on whether transrectal biopsies or transperineal biopsies are better for prostate cancer patients.
Don’t know the difference? No problem, this webinar will give lots of food for thought, and plenty to take back to the doctor’s office with you!
Deborah Kaye, MD, Assistant Professor Duke University Division of Urology and Duke Clinical Research Institute Margolis Policy Center, argued for transrectal biopsies. Arvin George, MD, a urologic surgeon specializing in the diagnosis and management of genitourinary cancers at University of Michigan Health, argued for transperineal procedures.
We have been reading all your feedback and taking it to heart, you want more information on this topic. To quote Rick Davis- “we hear ya!!”, and we are working on it.
Watch here:
Special thanks to Janssen, Pfizer, Bayer, Foundation Medicine, and Advanced Accelerator Applications for sponsoring this webinar.
We are working on slides – check back later.
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Summer of Art – August 30 Class – Watercolor Pencils
On August 30th, we had so much fun once again with our very own Hannah Garrison (Artist, MS activist, and moderator for our MS virtual support group). Hannah taught us in the ins and outs of watercolor pencils, and also showed how basic scribbling can create beautiful things!
Funding for this project was provided by the HealtheVoices Impact Fund at the Community Foundation of New Jersey, which was funded by a contribution from Janssen Pharmaceuticals, Inc.
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Hi-Risk/Recurrent/Advanced PCa Video Chat, Aug 23, 2022
AnCan’s upcoming webinar “Prostate cancer biopsies: the great debate” takes on a hot topic for anyone planning a biopsy: Should it be transrectal or transperineal? Learn what these techniques are and why the decision matters. Register at https://bit.ly/3OJ9Mmu
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Editor’s Pick: Refining the fine print — making changes when you’re handed paperwork to sign (bn)
Topics Discussed
Recommending a Fox Chase doc for NJ first-timer with troubling PSMA-PET; bicyclist sees two PSA rises after radiation — time to worry?; metastasis nine years after prostatectomy, seeking a new California doc; shaken by PSA rise after salvage radiation and en route to medonc; chemo round three — “it sucks but it works” ; testicular “barrier” complicates treatment for rare metastasis to a testicle; 6 months undetectable PSA, looking forward to a holiday; recovering from infection after losing 25 pounds, and pondering a T-cell trial; fantastic Pluvicto response, hoping for additional treatments; diarrhea and fatigue coming off abi — was prednisone taper too fast?; Keytruda treatments hit roadblock after blood test; nurses look askance when he carefully reads — and modifies — a stack of paperwork before signing.
Chat Log
Bob G. Philadelphia (to Everyone): 6:01 PM: Can’t stay but wanted to let you all know about a full day virtual series of classes from Abramson Cancer Center at Penn, where I go. Titled “Focus on Prostate Cancer” Friday, October 21, 2022 7:30 am – 4:00 pm EDT Free, though they ask for a small donation. https://www.med.upenn.edu/prostate2022/agenda.html
Richie in LA (to Everyone): 6:12 PM: Have severe thunderstorms in my area right now, so if I get kicked off for loss of electricity, I will try and log back in ASAP. Thanks
Peter Kafka – MN (to Everyone): 6:14 PM: Richie: If your internet goes out you can join by phone if that doesn’t get kicked out.
Richie in LA (to Everyone): 6:14 PM: Thanks Larry Fish (to Everyone): 6:20 PM: from nadir … how often PSA rests ..how long was it rising up to now – ? why no action?
Bob McHugh (to Everyone): 6:26 PM: Dan Geynisman at Fox Chase …
Joe Gallo (to Everyone): 6:43 PM: joeg@ancan.org I am 4+5
Julian Morales – Houston (to Everyone): 6:47 PM: Genitourinary (GU): Pertaining to the genital and urinary systems.
Julian Morales – Houston (to Everyone): 6:50 PM: FYI – These meetings are archived for viewing at later times.
Jeff in CA (to Everyone): 7:23 PM: Thanks all. Have another meeting startiing now. Much appreciation for your observations and feedback.
Joe Gallo (to Everyone): 7:39 PM: The nuclear doc for PSMA I mentioned at Fox Chase Yi Li, MD, MSc.
Joe Gallo (to Everyone): 7:43 PM: better name reference Jian Q. (Michael) Yu, MD, FACNM, FRCPC Chief, Department of Diagnostic Imaging, Nuclear Medicine and PET
John Vandenberg (to Everyone): 7:44 PM: thanks – i’ll ask my primary doc next week
Ben Nathanson (to AnCan Barniskis Room): 7:49 PM: Hope surgery went well!
AnCan Barniskis Room (Private): 7:50 PM: TxBen … all good and a little advocating for myself too
Julian Morales – Houston (to Everyone): 7:58 PM: I read my mortgage papers and was accused of being a lawyer!
Pat Martin (to Everyone): 8:08 PM: How long does it take to run through your system?
Jim Ward (to Everyone): 8:11 PM: Gotta run. Congrats on the successul procedure, Rick!
Hi-Risk/Recurrent/Advanced PCa Video Chat, Aug 15, 2022
Check out our NEW AnCan Veterans Support Group – all conditions, all genders … with the purpose of helping Vets navigate their healthcare, benefits, and disabilties no matter their Provider! https://ancan.org/veterans/ . Next meeting Aug 26 @ 8.00 pm Eastern in the Barniskis Room. Free & drop-in.
All AnCan’s groups are free and drop-in … join us in person sometime! You can find out more about our 12 per month prostate cancer meetings at https://ancan.org/prostate-cancer/ Sign up to receive a weekly Reminder/Newsletter for this Group or others at https://ancan.org/contact-us/
Editor’s Pick: Gynacomastia rarely gets discussed, so we put that right this week (rd)
Topics Discussed
Experience with Pluvicto; just started Keytruda/pembrolizumab; genomic testing can fall out of network without patient guidance; determining the low threshold for PSMA imaging; PSMA imaging cost; chemo may be working but considering next treatment; more Pluvicto experience; are occasional intense fevers associated with AUS?; how to deal with gynacomastia; doc misses sepsis and participant hospitalized; switching docs; holding steady; staph incfection lands another Gents in hospital; is PALB2 actionable; treating depression and anxiety; 3rd chemo session brings doc discussing what’s next; uretral stent removal delays Pluvicto start; treatment selction for older Gent with slow recurrence over many years.
Chat Log
Pat Martin (to Everyone): 8:11 PM: what is Provicto?
Paul Freda Lake Worth FL (to Everyone): 8:13 PM: Yes, what is Provicto ??
George Rovder Arlington VA (to Everyone): 8:13 PM: Above is link to Pluvicto
Pat Martin (to Everyone): 8:13 PM: Thanks
Alan Babcock (to Everyone): 5:46 PM: I am confused. My PSA is 0.21 and Dr. Wong & Dr. Geynisman fron Fox Chase said I cannot wait for radiation and ADT.
Jeff Marchi, San Francisco (to Everyone): 5:47 PM: PSA IS ONLY ONE FACTOR; how much cancer, has it spread
Alan Babcock (to Everyone): 5:50 PM: How much does a PSMA cost?
Alan Babcock (to Everyone): 6:03 PM: I must leave. Thank you for all the information.
Herb Geller (to Everyone): 6:25 PM: Nystatin
Bob G. Philadelphia (to Everyone): 6:25 PM: Nystatin powder
Herb Geller (to Everyone): 6:25 PM: Its and antifungal agent
Jimmy Greenfield (to Everyone): 6:28 PM: Thanks guys
George A Southiere Jr (to Everyone): 6:37 PM: sorry to hear Linda. Hang in there
Jeff Preston (to Everyone): 7:02 PM: Thanks to all tonight, great to be with you.
George A Southiere Jr (to Everyone): 7:03 PM: Goodnight all! good seeing you all
John Antonucci–CT (to Everyone): 7:07 PM: There’s a PALB2 website/interest group. https://palb2.org. Mostly breast Ca
Julian Morales – Houston (to Everyone): 7:10 PM: Need to leave – I will Dr E your best and a bottle of Greek Olive Oil! Thanks for the great converstation as always.
John Antonucci–CT (to Everyone): 7:11 PM: gtg goodnight
George Rovder Arlington VA (Private): 7:11 PM: How much B6 daily Rick?
Richard Cramond, Oakton, VA (to Everyone): 7:15 PM: Good night
ALFRED LATIMER (to Everyone): 7:16 PM: Another informative meeting. Must go . Good night
Glenn -Minnesota (to Everyone): 7:22 PM: Thanks for the conversation and suggestions. Good night
Carlos Huerta (to Everyone): 7:32 PM: thanks for the input.
Hi-Risk/Recurrent/Advanced PCa Video Chat, Aug 9, 2022
AnCan APOLOGIZES FOR ANY INCONVENIENCE FROM DOWNTIME ON OUR WEBSITE AT THE END OF JULY. AS A RESULT WE ARE NOW SWITCHING THE HOST.
Check out our NEW AnCan Veterans Support Group – all conditions, all genders … with the purpose of helping Vets navigate their healthcare, benefits, and disabilties no matter their Provider! https://ancan.org/veterans/
All AnCan’s groups are free and drop-in … join us in person sometime! You can find out more about our 12 monthly prostate cancer meetings at https://ancan.org/prostate-cancer/ Sign up to receive a weekly Reminder/Newsletter for this Group or others at https://ancan.org/contact-us/
Editor’s Pick: Libido … from a Care Partners pespective – and lots about Pluvicto (rd)
Topics Discussed
BRCA Newbie overly concerned about cachexia; combining institutions for Tx; Pluvicto supply issues … again!; does Pluvicto obscure X-rays?; Pluvicto side effects; blood thinning problem; Ports – Y/N; bone density on ADT; ONJ; not so quiet on the Eastern Front; reading PSMA scans; after a spike, abi continues to work; Provenge reconsidered … and pursued; relugolix + darolutamide combo; libido – from carepartners PoV; PSMA screening threshold
Chat Log
Mike Yancey (to Everyone): 3:04 PM: I enjoyed speaking with you too. Had by Pluvicto this morning…….
Rich Jackson (to Everyone): 3:06 PM: https://ancan.org/veterans/
Russ Strehlow (to Everyone): 4:10 PM: How do you spell that? * bone strengthener
Ben Nathanson (to Everyone): 4:11 PM: Denosumab
Len Sierra (to Everyone): 4:21 PM: XGEVA® is a 120-mg SC injection administered once every 4 weeks 1 The mean elimination half-life of XGEVA® was 28 days. Having said that, I believe most medoncs give Xgeva once every 3 months.
George Rovder Arlington VA (to Everyone): 4:31 PM: 🙂
Bob G. Philadelphia (to Everyone): 4:59 PM: According to the literature, half life of Xgeva may be 28 days, but the drug stays in the body for 140 days. So, I guess every 3 mo. would work, at least in the beginning.
Ancan – rick (to Everyone): 5:03 PM: Saving Your Sex LIfe
Joe Gallo (to Everyone): 5:04 PM: by john mulhall @ MSKCC; on Amazon
Herb Geller (to Everyone): 5:04 PM: doi: 10.1097/SPC.0000000000000190. Maintaining intimacy for prostate cancer patients on androgen deprivation therapy Richard J Wassersug 1
Herb Geller (to Organizer(s) Only): 5:14 PM: Gotta go. Sorry!
Julian Morales – Houston (to Everyone): 5:15 PM: Thanks everyone – Talk to all next week!
Bob G. Philadelphia (to Everyone): 5:19 PM: Thanks
AnCan and The Marsh (well renown, long-established theater company with a large following in the Bay Area and venues in San Francisco and Oakland) collaborateevery 4th Wednesday of the month for Solo Arts Heal!
Brooklyn-born, Los Angeles-raised rapper/producer Brian RiGHtSiDE’ Smith was diagnosed while in college with metastatic testicular cancer – and later, a reoccurrence of cancer in the brain, which left him with paralysis on his left side – hence the “right side” moniker.
In addition to performing original music, Brian discussed overcoming various health challenges and substance abuse, and his work supporting teens and young adults with cancer by sharing healthy and creative ways to process their emotions.
Watch this inspiring performance here:
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(Editor’s note: This is a ‘master’ list of books related to death, dying, and grief. We hope you will find this to be a helpful resource in your journey, no matter what it is. If you would like to share a book that has helped you, please email alexa at ancan.org. Amazon links here for your convenience and ease of purchasing the book. Remember, you can help AnCan with absolutely no cost to you by purchasing through AmazonSmile. Read how to here. Special thanks to Dr. John Antonucci.)
“We face fears of death and dying, and at times turn to authors who have thought deeply and written about the topic. I offer here a short bibliography on the topic. Ideally it would be an organic list, onto which readers could add suggestions or comments.” – Dr. John Antonucci
Hi-Risk/Recurrent/Advanced PCa Video Chat, Aug 1, 2022
AnCan APOLOGIZES FOR ANY INCONVENIENCE FROM DOWNTIME ON OUR WEBSITE AT THE END OF JULY. AS A RESULT WE ARE NOW SWITCHING THE HOST.
All AnCan’s groups are free and drop-in … join us in person sometime! You can find out more about our 12 monthly prostate cancer meetings at https://ancan.org/prostate-cancer/ Sign up to receive a weekly Reminder/Newsletter for this Group or others at https://ancan.org/contact-us/
Editor’s Pick: Crossing international borders when you’re ‘hot’; and watch your statins on Nubeqa (rd)
TopicsDiscussed
Recurrence after 19 years???; crossing the Border on Pluvicto; delayed PSA response to Pluvicto; throat side -effects; drug holiay approved; reduced darolutamide dosage; statins and darolutamide; debating Provenge – abscopal effect with spot RT; overreading G68 PSMA scans; chemo must precede Pluvicto; why hot flashes persist with no LHRH; adding abi to adjuvant RT; treating PCa testicular spread; FMI report reveals TP53; dealing with chemo
Chat Log
Frank Fabish – Columbus OH (to Organizer(s) Only): 5:16 PM: No update from me tonight. My next checkup and blood draw is Tuesday 8/23. Leaving for Cabo San Lucas on 8/4 for two weeks. A little bit of beach therapy.
Peter Kafka – Maui (to Everyone): 5:27 PM: Is this really advanced disease? Or even recurrent yet?
Bill Franklin – Sunny Florida (to Everyone): 5:28 PM: When all you have is a hammer…
C Huerta (to Everyone): 5:58 PM: Got to get to a Board Meeting. Next time …
AnCan – rick (to Everyone): 5:58 PM: Carl you have to tell me that upfront
john antonucci–CT (to Everyone): 5:59 PM: Lu177 half life 6.7 d. decays to stable hafnium 177 via beta radiation
Ken (to Everyone): 6:01 PM: thanks John
Jim Marshall, Alexandria, VA (to Everyone): 6:06 PM: John, ask him if he is on Medicare Advantage,Part C or Medicare, Part B. The Advantage provider may be the one denying. Jim
Stephen Saft (to Everyone): 6:28 PM: From google Adverse Reactions: The most common adverse reactions reported in clinical trials (≥ 15% of patients receiving PROVENGE) were chills, fatigue, fever, back pain, nausea, joint ache, and headache.
GEORGE ROVDER Arlington VA (to Everyone): 6:28 PM: Thanks
Steve. Peter Kafka – Maui (to Everyone): 6:35 PM: Gotta go = see y’all next week.
Frank Fabish – Columbus OH (to Everyone): 6:54 PM: Gotta go guys. Thanks for the info.
Stephen Saft (to Everyone): 7:04 PM: I am going to say goodnight. Tommorrow is 3 weeks since surgery. I need some time to prepare to get bed. Thanks everyone for sharing.
Jerry Pelfrey – Mexico (to Everyone): 7:10 PM: Time, have to go now. Thanks to everyone.
David Muslin (to Everyone): 7:14 PM: Dr Russell Szmulewitz New nurse January 2022 – Meghan Catenacci meghan.catenacci@uchospitals.edu
Julian Morales – Houston (to Everyone): 7:17 PM: Have to leave. Thanks for the great advice and c onversation! See y’all next Tuesday.
Stan Friedman – Stamford (to Everyone): 7:20 PM: Good night guys. Have an early morning start.
GEORGE ROVDER Arlington VA (to Everyone): 7:33 PM: Embr Wave
Bob G. Philadelphia (to Everyone): 7:34 PM: Thanks everyone. Have a good night
AnCan has an ongoing interest in issues around heart health for men on hormone therapy – especially if it involves androgen deprivation with an LHRH drug. We speak about this often in our High Risk/Recuirrent/Advanced meetings where many men are impacted, including our Moderators.
Last year AnCan produced a great webinar addressing this issue – yup, we know it says Active Surveillance, but Dr. Darryl Leong did a great job addressing LHRH implciations too. Watch it here. We are now particpating with Drs. Leong and Narayan at Penn who were just awarded a research grant to address heart health. We followed this up by nominating Dr. John Antonucci to appear on a CureTalk Panel addressing cardio-oncology issues. Listen to Dr. John talking with UCSF’s Dr. Javid Moslehi here. And recently Professor Herb Geller PhD spotted a good ASCO journal article reviewing the state of play. Herb and Dr. John, who himself has cardio considerations, worked together to summarize this piece, that follows. (rd)
The first line of treatment for recurrent and advanced prostate cancer is Androgen Deprivation Therapy (ADT). ADT is known to promote metabolic syndrome that has adverse cardio results. One controversial issue is whether an agonist Leutinizing Hormone Releasing Hormone (LHRH) like Lupron (and its sisters) or an antagonist LHRH like Firmagon (and its brothers) is safer for our hearts? Most of us with high-risk/recurrent disease are on one or the other and we generally hate them, though they keep our PSAs very low, sometimes for years.
So how do they work? Well, we want to keep our testosterone (T) as low as possible to “starve” out our prostate cancer that feeds on it. The drugs to do this are those that interfere with the brain’s signals to the testes to make T; that signal comes from the pituitary gland. There are two ways to do this:
Goose the pituitary gland in the brain with an “agonist” LHRH that overstimulates it producing excess testosterone. That explains the T. flare we often speak about. The over-signal shuts down this response in the pituitary by flooding and desensitizing receptors over time. The testes may also be complaining to the hypothalmus they are overworked in a separate feedback loop to the pituitary. The whole production of testosterone eventually stops. This LHRH drug is leuprolide; brand names include Lupron, Eligard, Zoladex, and Trelstar (we capitalize brand names and not generic names).
Block LHRH with an “antagonist”. No signal deactivates the pituitary signal to the testes and voila … no testosterone. Antagonists are Firmagon (degarelix) and Orgovix (relugovix).
Both work well, albeit differently, to do the job
No testosterone in your body can result in cardiac implications. There is a vigorous, ongoing debate whether the type of LHRH used mitigates your heart risk. This is of intense interest to us prostate cancer men with heart disease that can take us under.
As our Blog Editor remarked above, AnCan closely follows this debate. Some studies seem to clearly say the agonists are toxic to the heart, and others don’t demonstrate this. Every study has been faulted by the community of scientists, which by this time includes many in the new specialty of cardio-oncology. As a result, researchers are making painstaking efforts to remove all possible flaws from their study designs—a difficult task outside the lab. As these studies are better designed, they have shown decreasing cardiotoxicity for the medications and less and less difference between the two types of medications.
The most reliable study in this review, PRONOUNCE, was a randomized controlled study (the best kind of experiment) that compared an agonist, leuprolide/Lupron, against an antagonist, degarelix/Firmagon. All the men in the study had cardiovascular disease. The outcome measure was major adverse cardiovascular events, and the raters scored these events without knowing what medications the subjects were on. Tisseverasinghe said PRONOUNCE “was ideally conceived to isolate results from confounders and biases”. Results of PRONOUNCE? No significant difference between the two medications in terms of the heart, and very low cardiovascular events overall. So, do we finally have an answer?
Well even PRONOUNCE can be criticized. It tried for 900 subjects to make its statistics valid; it only got 545 – that’s still a pretty good number. Bad outcomes were very low: about 5% – some 3% died in the 1st year, 1.5 % from heart attack, 1% from stroke. It’s very hard to meaningfully compare groups with such small numbers. But the authors of the Tisseverasinghe article argue that even if PRONOUNCE was fully completed the outcome would still be the same. Our takeaway: it was the excellent and modern cardiological and cardio-oncological care that made those numbers of adverse cardiovascular effects in PRONOUNCE so low.
And so what can we conclude? It’s not proven, but it does not look like your doctor has to worry about using antagonists over agonists out of concern for your heart. And given modern cardio-oncological care, it does not look like we have to be terribly frightened for our heart IF we take care of it ….. HOW??
be aware of angina symptoms,
ask about aspirin,
monitor blood pressure,
monitor cholesterol and lipids,
stop smoking tobacco in any form
maintain a good diet (i.e. Mediterranean),
exercise regularly, and
practice weight control.
If there is risk, have a good cardiologist, and if risk is very high or you’re on immune therapy, find a cardio-oncologist.
John Antonucci & Herb Geller (follow up directly at dr.john@ancan.org; herb@ancan.org)
Work cited:
Tisseverasinghe S, Tolba M, Saad F, Gravis G, Bahoric B, Niazi T. Should Prostate Cancer Patients With History of Cardiovascular Events Be Preferentially Treated With Luteinizing Hormone- Releasing Hormone Antagonists? J Clin Oncol. 2022 Jul 21:JCO2200883. doi: 10.1200/JCO.22.00883 https://ascopubs.org/doi/full/10.1200/JCO.22.00883?bid=187952004&cid=DM11125
Hi-Risk/Recurrent/Advanced PCa Video Chat, July 26, 2022
AnCan APOLOGIZES FOR ANY INCONVENIENCE FROM DOWNTIME ON OUR WEBSITE THIS PAST WEEK. AS A RESULT WE ARE NOW IN THE PROCESS OF SWITCHING THE HOST.
All AnCan’s groups are free and drop-in … join us in person sometime! You can find out more about our 12 monthly prostate cancer meetings at https://ancan.org/prostate-cancer/ Sign up to receive a weekly Reminder/Newsletter for this Group or others at https://ancan.org/contact-us/
Editor’s Pick: No one ever asked but exactly how much chemo is required to be eligible for Pluvicto?… Jim B wants to know! And watch out for the Nurse Practitioners when your doc isn’t available(rd)
Topics Discussed
Denovo Mx Newbie experiences heart issues from treatment; when to see the NP; chemo failing – time for Pluvicto; handling anxiety; Carl’s next step – Pluvicto, rechallenging PARP, or …??; defer ADT for oligoMx spot RT; advanced PCa REQUIRES GU med onc who knows the map; how much chemo required for Pluvicto qualification; rechallenging with another radionuclide; treatments for PTEN and SPOP?
Chat Log
AnCan – rick (to Organizer(s) Only): 3:19 PM: No PTEN, TP53??
Herb Geller (to Organizer(s) Only): 3:19 PM: There must be some specific mutations
AnCan – rick (to Everyone): 3:22 PM: Great job getting your son to test, Bob!
ALFRED LATIMER (to Everyone): 3:37 PM: Bob: you have learrned an amazing amount about PCa in four months. Great job with the homework!
Len Sierra (to Organizer(s) Only): 3:44 PM: definitely!
Julian Morales – Houston (to Everyone): 3:58 PM: need to leave early tonite – catch you all next week!
Henry (Private): 4:12 PM: Hey there Rick. This is your old buddy Henry from Alabama. I joined late and so didn’t get on the list to ask questions/speak. Is there still room, or already too full for tonight? Not urgent. It’s about my PTEN SPOP deletions with low tumor mutational burden and microsatellite stability. I’ve learned from Dr. E (thanks to you hooking us up!!!!!!) that PTEN may = abiraterone resistance. This can totally wait ‘till next week or more. Thanks!!
Peter Kafka – Maui (to Organizer(s) Only): 4:17 PM: Guys: I wil be hopping off before 2pm – Got to catch an overnight flight back to Minneapolis. My first Keytruda infusion will be with Antonarakis next Tuesday. I am optimistic. Thanks for everything. I will try and catch up with some of the more recent MN guys who have popped up in recent weeks over the summer months.
David Muslin (to Everyone): 4:22 PM: Is Bob castrate resistant?
Peter Kafka – Maui (to Everyone): 4:33 PM: Good catch Dennis!
Bob McHugh (to Everyone): 4:34 PM: Many thanks to all. Good night.
Peter Kafka – Maui (to Everyone): 4:37 PM: Chemo # 5 & 6 are the worst.
Mark Finn (to Everyone): 4:47 PM: Rick – info on “weaning off” prednisone? thanks
AnCan – rick (to Everyone): 4:49 PM: SLOWLY!!!!!!!! Please speak to your docs!!
Mark Finn (to Everyone): 4:50 PM: OK – “slowly”? 5mg every other day? 2.5/day by cutting tablet? Expected side effects if go cold turkey?: I am going off prednizone and have about 10 tabs remaining.
Jim Marshall, Alexandria, VA (to Everyone): 4:53 PM: I did 2.5 prednisone for 10 days and 2.5 every other day for 10 days. Seem to work. jim marshall
AnCan – rick (to Everyone): 4:54 PM: Mark Finn …. you don’t want to go cold turkey. I know someone who lost 30# …. really screws up your adrenals.
David Muslin (to Everyone): 4:55 PM: When should Jim B check his PSA next?
Herb Geller (to Everyone): 4:56 PM: I assume they will check before the next chemo.
Jerry Pelfrey – Mexico (to Everyone): 5:14 PM: sorry I have to leave gents. Have a good week and see you next week!
Bob G (to Everyone): 5:15 PM: Have to leave. Thank you for all the great feedback & info. Will be back. Have a good night.
Kevin Bagnasco (Private): 5:17 PM. I am at a crossroad now. I have done LU-177, Actinium 8 sessions of docetaxel. Tagawa has taken me off because of the neuropathy in my fingers (nothing in toes). Scans are scheduled this Friday. I have an appointment with Tagawa on the 2nd and Petrylac on the 4th. PSA has gone from 9/9/21 (4.93 to 19.7).metastasized tumors are throughout my skeleton system.