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WELOME all to our FIRST recorded Low/Intermediate Prostate Cancer Group. It proved to be an excellent and lively session with about half our time devoted to radiation therapy and half to radical prostatectomy/ surgery. To receive notice when new recordings are posted, either follow us on this YouTube Channel or sign up to our Blog via https://ancan.org/contact-us/ – check New Blog box.
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AnCan cannot and does not provide medical advice. We encourage you to discuss anything you hear in our sessions with your own medical team.
AnCan reminds all Participants that Adverse Events experienced from prescribed drugs or protocols should be reported to the pharmaceutical manufacturer or the FDA Adverse Event Reporting System (FAERS). To do so call 1-800-332-1066 or download interactive FDA Form 3500 https://www.fda.gov/media/76299/download
AnCan’s Prostate Cancer Forum is back (https://ancan.org/forums). If you’d like to comment on anything you see in our Recordings or read in our Reminders, just sign up and go right ahead. You can also click on the Forum icon at the top right of the webpage.
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Editor’s Pick: With seminal vesicles positive for cancer in post-surgical pathology, what’s next?(rd)
Topics Discussed
PROSTOX test determines longer term sensitivity to radiation; SBRT vs hypofractionation; Dr. Greco is the go-to RO in the DC are; what does your Rad Onc do for you between sessions?; MIRAGE RT trial to report soon – how effective is MRI Guidance?; does cancer in your SVI post-surgery require follow up treatment?; MSKCC nomograms help guide decisions; with 3+4, when to follow up post-RP; 3+4 man decides to treat with RT; can you get a consult out of state.
Chat Log
sent: 5:14 PM
Dr. Mark. I cannot talk now. My question is not important. I can ask it at our next meeting.
sent: 5:18 PM
Rick. Can you please provide the link to that study you’ve mentioned.
Highlights of the top prostate cancer papers from the recent ASCO annual conference were presented by AnCan moderators in a special 75-minute session preceding the 7/1/2024 High Risk / Recurrent / Advanced prostate cancer meeting. Moderators Rick Davis, John Antonucci, Len Sierra, and Ben Nathanson spoke, followed by a 30-minute audience Q&A.
Topics we covered:
* Sequence your tumor before Pluvicto
* More tough news if you’ve got the bad mutations…
* With a BRCA mutatoin, get that PARP-I quickly!
* Readily available solution to hot flashes if you’re on abi
* State-of-the-art personalized medicine and imaging
* Cushioning the blows of ADT
* A flop for metformin
* Who should get treatment holidays?
* Is alpha radiation the top dog?
* Pressing AR’s self-destruct
* An angle on neuroendocrine
* Predicting winners at immunotherapy
* Who’ll connect at BAT?
* Doublet faceoff: ADT+ chemo vs ADT+ARPI
* In triplet trials, who really needed chemo?
* Ranking PARP inhibitors for bone-marrow complications
Men Speaking Freely is on for July 4 – we’re talking parent-child relationships with Dr. John Happy July 4th to all
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AnCan is grateful to the following sponsors for making this recording possible: Bayer, Foundation Medicine, Janssen, Myriad Genetics, Novartis, Telix & Blue Earth Diagnostics.
AnCan respectfully notes that it does not accept sponsored promotion. Any drugs, protocols or devices recommended in our discussions are based solely on anecdotal peer experience or clinical evidence.
AnCan cannot and does not provide medical advice. We encourage you to discuss anything you hear in our sessions with your own medical team.
AnCan reminds all Participants that Adverse Events experienced from prescribed drugs or protocols should be reported to the pharmaceutical manufacturer or the FDA Adverse Event Reporting System (FAERS). To do so call 1-800-332-1066 or download interactive FDA Form 3500 https://www.fda.gov/media/76299/download
AnCan’s Prostate Cancer Forum is back (https://ancan.org/forums). If you’d like to comment on anything you see in our Recordings or read in our Reminders, just sign up and go right ahead. You can also click on the Forum icon at the top right of the webpage.
All AnCan’s groups are free and drop-in … join us in person sometime!
Editor’s Pick: Dr. Jeff advises you read your medical records carefully – he’s found mistakes and typos in his! (rd)
Topics Discussed
Solution to chafing from sweats; put a GU med onc in place before you finish up at Fort Belvoir; Promise germline test; advocating for yourself at KP; play anxiety card to get Casodex buffer; couple of Gents update us; read your medical records carefully; PSA creeps – possible post-RP recurrence – when to get PSMA PET?; testing PSA in Panama and US; how does PSMA change as disease advances; responding well to HT; good immune system can slow disease
Hi, Dr. John. I’m 66. Inova Oncology Genetic testing ~ 2018. No BRCA. No prostate cancer history immediately family (father, uncles, cousin). Mother breast cancer (survived 30 years) died of uterine cancer (BRCA, I think). After an ADT vacation three years – 2020 > 2023. Orgovyx February 2024 and scheduled to stop end of July 2024. (Received continuous ADT 2017-2018. Had intermittent ADT 2018 through 2019.) Thank you, Doctor.
John A
sent: 5:49 PM
Color includes PTEN.
Richard Fiske
sent: 5:56 PM
Long Term AnCan title: BSd
dan straub
sent: 6:02 PM
I just received my COLOR genetic test results… it does NOT analyze P10 or RB1
Editor’s Note: We know you’ve missed receiving email notifications about our blog posts. Now that we are up and running on the new system via mailchimp (the same system you receive our group reminders on), here are the posts may have missed. They are categorized for your connivence. Enjoy!
Hi-Risk/Recurrent/Advanced PCa Video Chat Recordings
Hi-Risk/Recurrent/Advanced PCa Video Chat, June 25, 2024
AnCan is grateful to the following sponsors for making this recording possible: Bayer, Foundation Medicine, Janssen, Myriad Genetics, Novartis, Telix & Blue Earth Diagnostics.
AnCan respectfully notes that it does not accept sponsored promotion. Any drugs, protocols or devices recommended in our discussions are based solely on anecdotal peer experience or clinical evidence.
AnCan cannot and does not provide medical advice. We encourage you to discuss anything you hear in our sessions with your own medical team.
AnCan reminds all Participants that Adverse Events experienced from prescribed drugs or protocols should be reported to the pharmaceutical manufacturer or the FDA Adverse Event Reporting System (FAERS). To do so call 1-800-332-1066 or download interactive FDA Form 3500 https://www.fda.gov/media/76299/download
AnCan’s Prostate Cancer Forum is back (https://ancan.org/forums). If you’d like to comment on anything you see in our Recordings or read in our Reminders, just sign up and go right ahead. You can also click on the Forum icon at the top right of the webpage.
All AnCan’s groups are free and drop-in … join us in person sometime!
Editor’s Pick: After a 10x PSA rise on Pluvicto, it’s time for new therapy — and a new genetic test (bn)
Topics Discussed
Poised to start ADT, de novo Floridian has two good choices for GU medonc; with PSA of 700 and a cancer “that’s really gotten out of hand,” he starts chemo but it sends him to the ICU; tenfold rise in PSA puts an end to his Pluvicto treatment — he needs a fresh genetic test before changing course; a go-ahead for spot therapy, so he’s headed to a free NYC hotel room; wheeze raises concern about his lung mets, but multiple tests find nothing; switching from treadmill to recumbent bike, max heart rate sags; back pain woes on Provenge; recurrence after prostatectomy but PSMA PET is giving no guidance; don’t pick a hospital, pick a doctor — and we like Dr. E; medoncs won’t talk with him because he’s not metastatic, so choose a great radonc for now.
Chat Log
Unknown · 6:16 PM
Promise study …. https://www.prostatecancerpromise.org/?utm_campaign=ANCAN&utm_medium=link&utm_source=Webinar
Paul Freda Lake Worth FL · 6:29 PM
Genutourinary Medical Oncologist, Abraham Schwartzberg, Jupiter and Palm Beach Florida. I can highly recommend as I have been with him for 9 years.
Dr. Jeff · 7:06 PM
Six-transmembrane epithelial antigen of prostate 1= STEAP1
Julian – Houston · 7:07 PM
STEAP: A prostate-specific cell-surface antigen highly expressed in human prostate tumors, https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC24469/
Joel Blanchette, Reston, VA · 7:19 PM
Hope Lodge
Joel Blanchette, Reston, VA · 7:20 PM
Hope lodge is in 30 cities
Geoffrey Nourse – Denver · 7:42 PM
So doctors I am meeting with over the next 3 weeks to discuss my T4N1M1 diagnosed 6/5/24.
Dr. Corbin Eule – Anschutz (Denver) 6/27
Dr. Michael Serzan – Dana Farber (Boston) 7/15
Dr. Karen Autio – MSK (NYC) 7/16
Working to get in to Dr. Eugene Kwon – Mayo (Rochester)
On Orgovyx (4 days in) and will be starting Nebeqa and xgeva (osteo).
PSA 21 –> 35 in last 30 days
Baselined all blood work – normal except PSA (35)
Genetic tests in progress.
Anyone work with these doctors and have any opinions of them?
Joel Blanchette, Reston, VA · 7:51 PM
Posluma
Frank Fabish · 8:02 PM
Thanks guys. See you Monday.
Steve Roux, MI · 8:08 PM
Thanks guys. Great Meeting! See you next time!
Unknown · 8:11 PM
Retig not taking patients w my profile rising psa post rep
We are so excited to announce our Renal Medullary Carcinoma Support Group partners are on an esteemed panel for World Sickle Cell Day representing RMC! This events features Ritchie Johnson of Chris ‘CJ’ Johnson Foundation (US) and Nicola Casey of The Ricky Casey Trust (UK) and several other international perspectives on Sickle Cell Trait/Disease. Every time SCT and RMC are discussed together, progress is made in our community. We are so glad these incredible ladies are talking about it! We encourage you to attend this event and learn more.
Established in 1973, the Sidney Kimmel Comprehensive Cancer Center at Johns Hopkins has been committed to advancing the understanding of human cancers and developing more effective treatments.The National Cancer Institute (NCI) recognizes this Center as a Comprehensive Cancer Center, highlighting its involvement in clinical and laboratory research, education, community outreach, and cancer prevention.
In this video, specialists from the Johns Hopkins Kimmel Cancer Center offer a nutritional guide for patients with a pancreatic cancer diagnosis.
AnCan is grateful to the following sponsors for making this recording possible: Bayer, Foundation Medicine, Janssen, Myriad Genetics, Novartis, Telix & Blue Earth Diagnostics.
AnCan respectfully notes that it does not accept sponsored promotion. Any drugs, protocols or devices recommended in our discussions are based solely on anecdotal peer experience or clinical evidence.
AnCan cannot and does not provide medical advice. We encourage you to discuss anything you hear in our sessions with your own medical team.
AnCan reminds all Participants that Adverse Events experienced from prescribed drugs or protocols should be reported to the pharmaceutical manufacturer or the FDA Adverse Event Reporting System (FAERS). To do so call 1-800-332-1066 or download interactive FDA Form 3500 https://www.fda.gov/media/76299/download
AnCan’s Prostate Cancer Forum is back (https://ancan.org/forums). If you’d like to comment on anything you see in our Recordings or read in our Reminders, just sign up and go right ahead. You can also click on the Forum icon at the top right of the webpage.
All AnCan’s groups are free and drop-in … join us in person sometime!
Editor’s pick: “Do no harm” – does that also mean waiting to start HT? Good debate ensues! (rd)
Topics Discussed:
All good with The General; TP53 and radiation; best combos with which to start HT on recurrence; pre-treatment PSMA reveals Nx and changes treatment decision; stopping Orgovyx after 13 months may prove a good move; switching to 3 mo. from 6 mo. LHRH Depot; weight gain on LHRH; spot too close to bladder for safe RT – stick with HT alone; more rowers than just ardee; our mountain climber’s doing very well and happy with his GU MO; slow albeit steady climb in PSA shows no source – intervene with HT or wait?; starting HT on Lupron and testicular pain – any connection?
Chat Log
APOLOGIES but a GoTo glitch only downloaded these 2 posts – who knows why??? If anyone who attended has entire Chat transcript, please forward to rd@rickd13.sg-host.com
Jeff Marchi: Withings Body+ Scale. Synchs to your phone
Hi-Risk/Recurrent/Advanced PCa Video Chat, June 11, 2024
AnCan is grateful to the following sponsors for making this recording possible: Bayer, Foundation Medicine, Janssen, Myriad Genetics, Novartis, Telix & Blue Earth Diagnostics.
AnCan respectfully notes that it does not accept sponsored promotion. Any drugs, protocols or devices recommended in our discussions are based solely on anecdotal peer experience or clinical evidence.
AnCan cannot and does not provide medical advice. We encourage you to discuss anything you hear in our sessions with your own medical team.
AnCan reminds all Participants that Adverse Events experienced from prescribed drugs or protocols should be reported to the pharmaceutical manufacturer or the FDA Adverse Event Reporting System (FAERS). To do so call 1-800-332-1066 or download interactive FDA Form 3500 https://www.fda.gov/media/76299/download
AnCan’s Prostate Cancer Forum is back (https://ancan.org/forums). If you’d like to comment on anything you see in our Recordings or read in our Reminders, just sign up and go right ahead. You can also click on the Forum icon at the top right of the webpage.
All AnCan’s groups are free and drop-in … join us in person sometime!
Editor’s pick: Two men with metastasis sites that raise thorny questions (bn).
Topics Discussed:
His de novo metastasis was discovered less than a week ago — family rallies to his side as he weighs who to see and how to treat; midway through Provenge — leukapheresis yesterday, infusion in two days — what to expect?; radiating a spot near his clavicle means a tricky tradeoff; insurance cutover puts Orgovyx so near yet so far; will node radiation reignite bad radiation prostatitis?; at a treatment crossroads, but his spirits are too low to act; testosterone rising after ADT — why gynecomastia now?; Pluvicto’s been great and he wishes it could last.
From the Provenge website: Eat calcium-rich foods, such as dairy products and dark leafy greens, or take supplements; Eat a hearty meal within 4 hours of your appointment
AnCan – rick · 7:13 PM
Good suggestion, Dr. Jeff
AnCan – rick · 7:14 PM
But Ben has a good point too.
Ken Doyle · 7:29 PM
Prostate removed in 2009 and PSA has slowly increased to 4 but has accelerated some to about an increase of about 1 per year.
My 2018 Axumin scan showed two hotspots in prostate bed.
Then 2023 PSMA did not show hotspots due to distended bladder with tracer in it.
1. Should the scan provider have made sure that my bladder was empty and should I expect them to do a do over of the PSMA scan?
2. At age 80 and 14 years out with PSA increase of 1 per yr should I just “forget about it”?
AnCan – rick · 7:30 PM
Tx ken – for sure we’llg et to you!
Dr. Jeff · 7:31 PM
ImagingWest
Dr. Jeff · 7:31 PM
Hawthorne NY
Dr. Jeff · 7:32 PM
https://www.imagingwest.com/about
Ben Nathanson · 7:32 PM
thanks!
G – Denver · 7:34 PM
Need to drop – looking forward to our next session!
Matt M – Sac · 7:44 PM
Good evening gents! Have a great night andweek!
eric · 7:51 PM
I was going to say that there are exercises you can do from your chair.
eric · 7:52 PM
I do them expecailly when I’m in the office
AnCan – rick · 7:53 PM
He’s a big exerciser… we have to change attitudes
Adam · 7:59 PM
Gotta drop. Thanks for another great session!
Adam · 7:59 PM
You should!
Kirt Schaper · 8:07 PM
gotta drop
Steve Roux, MI · 8:11 PM
Good night gents! Time for some pills and a slice of pie. Have a GREAT week all!
Transperineal Biopsies – AnCan’s favorite Standard Bearer explains!
If you’ve been around AnCan’s prostate cancer programming, and for sure our Active Surveillance and Low/Intermediate Groups, you are certain to know AnCan moderator and medical journalist Howard Wolinsky. He has campaigned on many issues impacting men like him with very low, low and intermediate risk prostate cancer. The list is long – and included below!
Howard has three signature campaigns. He has worked ceaselessly to expand the number of men diagnosed with very low, low and low/intermediate risk prostate cancer who are treated with the active surveillance protocol. He is a founding member of the medical group advocating to rename very low grade prostate cancer something other than cancer. It recently dawned on us that AnCan, one of Howard’s ever present platforms, had never blogged on TPs.
TPs avoid the germy rectum and virtually never cause infections or potentially deadly and disabling sepsis, although nothing is 100%. The biopsy needle is placed through the perineum, the space between the rectum and the testicles. This is not only patently more hygienic avoiding all fecal material, but also allows access to posterior areas of the prostate that cannot be reached with the TR protocol. Here’s an excellent short video to better explain.
Over 800 people—fellow patients and some leading physicians—have signed his petition to phase out transrectal biopsies. Wolinsky called on Medicare and Congress to intervene after a scandal in Norway caused the European Association of Urology to take on the issue in 2021 when a Norwegian died from sepsis following a prostate biopsy. The policy head of EAU told Wolinsky that transrectal biopsies were tantamount to “malpractice” in Europe. Wolinsky moderated a debate on TP vs. TR at AnCan in 2022 AnCan also ran two webinars on the topic in 2022:
So what did the American Urological Association do?
You might expect some resistance to a major change in practice that’ would cost urologists time to be trained and up to $40,000 in equipment to set up this new approach. That’s what happened. Wolinsky, representing AnCan, as a consumer reviewer, told the AUA Early Detection Guidelines in 2023 that they should recommend transperineal biopsies as the preferred method. He said men were dying while they were debating which end of the egg is better to break first.
AUA still put TP on par with TR in its guidelines. A small step for men, as Neil Armstrong said on the first moon landing. The AUA is conservative and says it requires high levels of evidence from research before changing its guidelines—even though EAU counterparts consider TP their preferred method. Daniel Lin, MD, vice chair of the AUA committee, said in 2023 that randomized clinical trials would be the key to resolving the issue and several were coming in the next year.
Dr. Badar Mian’s single-center RCT at the University of Albany showed TR and TP essentially had the same results in terms of infections. It was widely criticized for not having enough patients to reveal rates for sepsis.
Dr. Jim Hu’s multi-center study based at Weill-Cornell “almost” showed a statistical benefit to TP in a paper presented last January. But no cigar. The study was expanded and it is clear that TP wins in this research. Hu told the recent AUA meeting about it, but won’t talk about the results until the study is published.
But TP, meanwhile, is in increasing demand. A poll of 145 AS-educated readers of TheActiveSurveillor.comfound that 36% had undergone a TP biopsy – far above the national average of 15% now and 10% two years ago. 54% of respondents expect to undergo transperineal procedures in their next biopsies.
None of this is say biopsies should be eliminated, just that they should be done as necessary and as infrequently as possible. A decade ago, urologists recommended annual biopsies. As their confidence in AS has increased, the frequency varies by practice: from every other year to three to five years as in Dr. Klotz’s practice in Toronto. Wolinsky’s own care as a peer in this Active Surveillance cohort has de-intensified with annual visits to his doctor, Dr. Brian T. Helfand | NorthShore He has not had an MRI or biopsy in eight years–though his doctor still considers Wolinsky on AS. At age 76, he is considering hopping off the AS train.
Just in case you think Howard is a one-track (or even three-track) pony, here are a few other issues he has undertaken on behalf of men living with very low, low and intermediate prostate cancer.