Hi-Risk/Recurrent/Advanced PrCa Video Chat, Dec 15, 2025
AnCan thanks the following sponsors for making this recording possible: Bayer, Novartis, Johnson and Johnson, Telix, Blue Earth Diagnostics and Foundation Medicine.
Views expressed in this Recording are solely the opinion of AnCan Foundation, our Moderators and Participants.
AnCan does not accept sponsored promotion. Any drugs, protocols or devices discussed are based solely on anecdotal peer experience or clinical evidence.
AnCan cannot and does not provide medical advice. We encourage you to discuss anything you hear in our sessions with your own medical team.
AnCan reminds all Participants that Adverse Events experienced from prescribed drugs or protocols should be reported to the pharmaceutical manufacturer or the FDA Adverse Event Reporting System (FAERS). To do so call 1-800-332-1066 or download interactive FDA Form 3500 https://www.fda.gov/media/76299/download
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Veterans Speaking freely… 4th Tuesday @ @ 8.00 pm Eastern Schmier Room
Editor’s Pick: Finishing 10x Pluvicto; and, following up post-surgery for BRCA germline Gent
Topics Discussed
Endorsing AnCan; 10 rounds of Pluvicto – with a break after 6; low dose estrigen enquiry; Newbie want to know when to intervene on recrrence post-surgery; Tempus report shows PTEN and more; cribriform favors radiation over surgery; time for another PSMA scan; IHT or mono daro – beware of gynecomastia; can reduciing daro dose loer fatigue?; more on cribriform and RT; debulking primary tumor post chemo; BRCA germline Gent wondes when to intervene with RT post RP – and if to include HT
Chat
Jeff Marchi – San Francisco
sent: 6:12 PM
friday this week
Thomas Matica
sent: 6:14 PM
Glad to hear Peter Kafka is doing well.
Stan Friedman
sent: 6:29 PM
after 5 sessions, my psa is now undetectable
Mark N
sent: 6:30 PM
What is the drug that was just discussed?
Larry Schuller – Alaska
sent: 6:31 PM
Mark, Pluvicto work the same way imaging for PSMA-PET scans do. Instead of just giving an image of where the cancer is, it delivers a higher dose that is therapeutic
Mark N
sent: 6:31 PM
Thanks!
AnCan–John A
sent: 6:33 PM
Lee–still undetectable psa?
Larry Schuller – Alaska
sent: 6:34 PM
Many side effecs of standard ADT is actually caused by estradiol deficiency (which is caused by the absence of testosterone). This deficiency is the same as what causes osteopoosis in post-menopausal women.
Larry Schuller – Alaska
sent: 6:35 PM
Men normally have between 15 and 50 levels of estradiol
Larry Schuller – Alaska
sent: 6:36 PM
Breast growth and nipple sensitivity is a side effect of standard ADT too, but at a lower incidence than with estradiol.
Jerry G, Brighton, MI
sent: 6:39 PM
I’ll add support for higher dose estradiol, for me in the absence of testosterone. My osteopenia cleared up, and I am now in the normal range for bone density. I have been on permanent ADT for almost 7 years now, and estradiol for just over 6. My PSA is still undetectable
Larry Schuller – Alaska
sent: 6:49 PM
Tom Miller’s Lymph nodes?
Lee Baylin, Baltimore
sent: 6:52 PM
Dr. John, I’m still undectable.
AnCan – rick
sent: 6:59 PM
Curtis DeVille an Channing Paller at Sibley
Bob Schwartz U.S.N. Venice, FL.
sent: 7:00 PM
Once again, many thanks to the Unknown Anonymous Benefactor, who is matching donations to AnCan. Please know that your kindness is very much appreciated. Good meeting as usual, unfortunately have to go early.
Gedatolisib is a PI3K/AKT/mTOR (PAM) pathway inhibitor showing promising early results in clinical trials for metastatic castration-resistant prostate cancer (mCRPC), often combined with AR inhibitors like darolutamide, targeting the PI3K pathway which is frequently altered in advanced prostate cancers, especially with PTEN loss, to control cell growth and survival, with studies aiming to find optimal doses and demonstrate improved survival and response rates.
Larry Schuller – Alaska
sent: 7:26 PM
Get a baseline bone density, too
Larry Schuller – Alaska
sent: 7:29 PM
Exercise program. A healthy body withstands the rigors of treatment better
RJ Smith (Seattle)
sent: 7:30 PM
Along with all the other tests, PROSTOX might help to know if you are prone to long-term side effects from the radiation. Most people aren’t. Like Rick said, though, if you’ve decided on radiation–might just take go for it. 😉
Steve L
sent: 7:44 PM
By the way, My immunotherapy induced Pulmonary embolism cleared this summer after about 12 months. I started feeling better immediately. They have pulled me off Eliquis. I am back to scuba diving. Currently feeling very good.
AnCan–John A
sent: 7:46 PM
Noted, Steve. that’s good
Bruce Schrimpf
sent: 7:55 PM
Again A very good discussion! Should I not see you before, Merry Christmas!
Re: Second reads on PSMA-PET scan. I had a scan at Fred Hutch Cancer Center and the report was MUCH MORE detailed than the scan I had at my local imaging center. So, Second reads on the original scan imaging is valuable, in my opinion.
Larry Schuller – Alaska
sent: 8:17 PM
On top of that, the written report is only words. Actually showing the imaging to my surgeon saved me an extra surgery. Not mentioned on the report’s text wat that a reservoir from a prior surgery would complicate a robotic prostatectomy. It turns out that if a robotic had been started, it would have had to have been aborted, necessitating a subsequent open procedure.
Larry Schuller – Alaska
sent: 8:18 PM
Show your original imaging to your doctors, especially if approaching surgery
dan-s
sent: 8:21 PM
Thanks all for another great mtg – I have to leave (up early tomorrow)
AnCan – rick
sent: 8:22 PM
Gents – long posts in the Chat poses a problem when we write up these meetings. There is a limit in You Tube on what we can paste.
Hi-Risk/Recurrent/Advanced PrCa Video Chat, Dec 9, 2025
AnCan thanks the following sponsors for making this recording possible: Bayer, Novartis, Johnson and Johnson, Telix, Blue Earth Diagnostics and Foundation Medicine.
Views expressed in this Recording are solely the opinion of AnCan Foundation, our Moderators and Participants.
AnCan does not accept sponsored promotion. Any drugs, protocols or devices discussed are based solely on anecdotal peer experience or clinical evidence.
AnCan cannot and does not provide medical advice. We encourage you to discuss anything you hear in our sessions with your own medical team.
AnCan reminds all Participants that Adverse Events experienced from prescribed drugs or protocols should be reported to the pharmaceutical manufacturer or the FDA Adverse Event Reporting System (FAERS). To do so call 1-800-332-1066 or download interactive FDA Form 3500 https://www.fda.gov/media/76299/download
All AnCan’s groups are free and drop-in … join us in person sometime! You can find out more about our 12 monthly prostate cancer meetings at https://ancan.org/prostate-cancer/ Sign up to receive a weekly Reminder/Newsletter for this Group or others at https://ancan.org/contact-us/
Join our other free and drop in groups:
Men (Only) Speaking Freely…1st & 3rd Thursdays @ 8.00 pm Eastern https://ancan.org/men-speaking-freely/
Veterans Healthcare Navigation… 1st & 3rd Tuesdays @ 8.00 pm Eastern Schmier Room https://ancan.org/veterans/
Veterans Speaking freely… 4th Tuesday @ @ 8.00 pm Eastern Schmier Room
Editor’s Pick: Lotsa confusion throughout this week! To pick just one, Signatera MRD test.
Topics Discussed
Newbie has a great HCP team – but seeking more; Mayo bamboozles this Newbie – needs more and reliable information; another Newbie chose to leave himself on ADT for 5 years – and wonders about fatigue and weight gain he’s now shed w. GLP; muscle mass with low T; Regular finds Signatera MRD test – but it’s not yet FDA approved for prostate cancer… & Dr. Jack’s been following this test a long time; Epstein downgrades Gent from 4+5 to 4+3 – Kishan & MR Linac next; elevated liver enzymes after chemo; steady as he goes with 0.03 rise; what’s pituitary’s role for testosterone; PSA testing during Pluvicto
Chat
Alexander Lalov, Pendleton, IN
sent: 4:13 PM
Is the recording going to be made public?
Eric James; Tyler TX
sent: 4:13 PM
yes, on Youtube
AnCan – rick
sent: 4:14 PM
All our Recordings are posted on YuTube – over 700
Larry (Veteran, Alaskan)
sent: 4:16 PM
Check your camera shutter at the top of your screen
Dr. Ming Zhou Mount Sinai Health System Department of Pathology, Box 1194 Annenberg Bldg. 15th FL 1468 Madison Ave New York, NY 10029 Email: Ming.zhou@mountsinai.org Telephone: (212)241-8881
Jay – those are the 2 pathologists for a 2nd opinion.
Alexander Lalov, Pendleton, IN
sent: 5:27 PM
Bary, would you post the web address, please
Alexander Lalov, Pendleton, IN
sent: 5:28 PM
Oh, Withing is the name. Thnx!
John G.
sent: 5:28 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ado6dItMebE Yes, even on androgen deprivation therapy (ADT) with testosterone suppressed to near-zero (castration levels), you can increase muscle mass and strength through resistance training, though gains are typically modest and focused on counteracting atrophy rather than dramatic hypertrophy.[1][3] ## Evidence from Studies Multiple clinical trials show prostate cancer patients on ADT gaining muscle mass and fiber size after 12–20 weeks of supervised resistance training, including compound lifts like squats and presses, performed 2–3 times weekly. Progressive overload—gradually increasing weights—prevents fiber size decline in both type I and II muscles and boosts capillarization for better performance. These adaptations occur via mechanical loading and protein synthesis pathways independent of testosterone, such as IGF-1 signaling.
Larry (Veteran, Alaskan)
sent: 5:28 PM
YMCA “Livestrong” program is designed for cancer survivors. Look it up
Larry (Veteran, Alaskan)
sent: 5:29 PM
Government funded, so it is free and includes YMCA membership for the 12 week duration,
Hi-Risk/Recurrent/Advanced PrCa Video Chat, Nov 25, 2025
Happy Thanksgiving to all our AnCan particpants, especially if not on our mailing list. We’d have to ask why not, when you can sign up at https://ancan.org/contact-us/ and recive our great Newsletter/Reminder.
CORRECTION (rd)
I want to apologize and make a correction for someting I said in last Tuesday’s support group. At the end we were discussing adding a couple of Pluvicto treatments to Metastatic Directed Therapy. However this was for a man who had progressed rather than having just been diagnosed oligometastatic as in the LUNAR trial reported in the Reminder last week. I mentioned he might be eligible in the USA as Pluvicto is approved for metastatic hormone sensitive prostate cancer. This is not the case, and I misspoke. PSMAddtion was positively reported for mHSPC use at the recent ESMO conference – thank you Dr. Paul for this link. To date, it has not been FDA approved. I knew of the trial and got ahead of the game; although I was confusing it with PSMAFore.
AnCan thanks the following sponsors for making this recording possible: Bayer, Novartis, Johnson and Johnson, Myriad Genetics, Telix, Blue Earth Diagnostics and Foundation Medicine.
Views expressed in this Recording are solely the opinion of AnCan Foundation, our Moderators and Participants.
AnCan does not accept sponsored promotion. Any drugs, protocols or devices discussed are based solely on anecdotal peer experience or clinical evidence.
AnCan cannot and does not provide medical advice. We encourage you to discuss anything you hear in our sessions with your own medical team.
AnCan reminds all Participants that Adverse Events experienced from prescribed drugs or protocols should be reported to the pharmaceutical manufacturer or the FDA Adverse Event Reporting System (FAERS). To do so call 1-800-332-1066 or download interactive FDA Form 3500 https://www.fda.gov/media/76299/download
All AnCan’s groups are free and drop-in … join us in person sometime! You can find out more about our 12 monthly prostate cancer meetings at https://ancan.org/prostate-cancer/ Sign up to receive a weekly Reminder/Newsletter for this Group or others at https://ancan.org/contact-us/
Join our other free and drop in groups:
Men (Only) Speaking Freely…1st & 3rd Thursdays @ 8.00 pm Eastern https://ancan.org/men-speaking-freely/
Veterans Healthcare Navigation… 1st & 3rd Tuesdays @ 8.00 pm Eastern Schmier Room https://ancan.org/veterans/
Veterans Speaking freely… 4th Tuesday @ @ 8.00 pm Eastern Schmier Room
Editor’s Pick: Robust discussion around testoterone early on – and thoughts about combining therapies at the end.
Topics Discussed
how long to stay on HT leads to rich discussion on testosterone; did salvage cryo bring his PSA down? And he needs a GU MO QB; cupplementing T with Clomid is new to AnCan; casting around for intial treatment; ststarting Prolia that’s NO lifetime drug; tachycardia and AFib; recovering from 6x dicetaxel; b est treatment options for Stage T3 ; holding steady; allowing PSA to rise to find source of oligo-Mx; can we add Pluvicto to MDT later in the cycle?
Chat
Frank Ciambra sent: 5:10 PM
my wife is a nurse working in cardiology ,im going to share this witth her
John M – Chicago sent: 5:11 PM
Don I am doing great. Feeling stronger. Exercise is the KEY. Everything progressing according to plan. I’m going to my sons house to be with him, his wife and my grandson. What about you?
Jim Marshall, Veteran, Alexandria, VA sent: 5:27 PM
AFib – Join the club with others. Jim Marshall
Julian – Houston sent: 5:29 PM
I had AFIB then had cardiac ablation in March 25 and then it went away!
Jim Marshall, Veteran, Alexandria, VA sent: 5:30 PM
AFib is Mutually exclusive with Vitamin K. Jim Marshall;
Jim Marshall, Veteran, Alexandria, VA sent: 5:32 PM
Have AFib and take Blood Thinner, Pradaxa, Metropolol Tartrate and a Statin – Pravastatin. Jim Marshall
AnCan – rick sent: 5:33 PM
abir-A-terone
Jim Marshall, Veteran, Alexandria, VA sent: 5:34 PM
Lupron/Eligard and Abi have warnings for those who have heart issues. Jim Marshall
Alfredo in Houston, TX sent: 5:37 PM
Vitamin K potentially interferes with anticoagulants (blood thinners). And you also get vitamin K in your diet from leafy greens. Everyone please remember to discuss ALL supplements with your physician AND pharmacist.
TonyFig sent: 5:39 PM
There is a strong link between sleep apnea bringing on A-Fib.
Alfredo in Houston, TX sent: 5:41 PM
I am being called to supper now, so I must leave — but not before wishing a Happy Thanksgiving to everyone. Good night
AnCan–John A sent: 5:48 PM
stereotactic body radiation therapy
Julian – Houston sent: 5:53 PM
Happy Thanksgiving to all!!!
TonyFig sent: 5:56 PM
Blood Thinner – a naturopath approach for anticoagulation can be quite risky as it may not present consistent and reliable levels to address A-Fib episodes or other cardiac issues. I discussed this with cardiac surgeons as well as a heart biologic replacement valve supplier. I would not take the risk of naturopath solution for this application.
Nattokanese, Vit E, Ginger, Omega Oils in high dose, Cayene Pepper Tumeric, etc
John M – Chicago sent: 6:04 PM
Have a great Thanksgiving everyone!
Dennis Correia sent: 6:07 PM
Happy Thanksgiving all
Barry Blomquist sent: 6:07 PM
Have to jump – Happy Thanksgiving to everyone and thank you all!
dan-s sent: 6:09 PM
Thanks all – Happy Thanksgiving
Jerry Pelfrey sent: 6:10 PM
Time to go. Everyone have a wonderful Thanksgiving.
Larry (Alaska) sent: 6:14 PM
Suggesting Pluvicto as first-line treatment instead of ADT as first-line?
Join your instructor Hannah Garrison for this fun autumn-inspired patterns art project.
We’ll use watercolor, scissors, & any drawing medium you have for doodles
This class is open to everyone as a positive tool for mental health. Imagine a safe place, full of support and encouragement, where you can explore your creativity. It doesn’t matter if you are regularly featured in The Museum of Modern Art in New York City, or haven’t picked up an art supply in decades, you are welcome here
Active Surveillance Prostate Cancer Video Chat, November 12th, 2025
AnCan is grateful to the following sponsors for making this recording possible: Bayer, Novartis, Johnson and Johnson, Myriad Genetics, Telix, and Blue Earth Diagnostics.
Active Surveillance (AS) for low-risk prostate cancer involves unique challenges compared to other treatments. This online support group is designed for men and their caregivers who are currently on or considering AS. We hold four meetings monthly, recording only the second and fourth sessions. Our discussions cover a wide range of topics, including anxiety management, biopsy experiences, and the decision-making process around continuing or discontinuing AS. Newcomers are given priority to share their experiences, so we encourage you to join us.
You can find out more about our 12 monthly prostate cancer meetings at https://ancan.org/prostate-cancer/. Sign up to receive a weekly Reminder/Newsletter for this Group or others at https://ancan.org/contact-us/.
Chat Log:
AnCan – rick
If you have any technical problems, call GoTo at 877 582 7011
AnCan – rick
Dr. Jonathan Epstein – https://advanceduropathology.com Tel: 516-760-2037 jepstein@imppllc.com
AnCan – rick
Dr. Ming Zhou Mount Sinai Health System Department of Pathology, Box 1194 Annenberg Bldg. 15th FL 1468 Madison Ave New York, NY 10029 Email: Ming.zhou@mountsinai.org Telephone: (212)241-8881
Bill (VA)
You can be a “6” but that assumes it is all found.
AnCan – rick
Dr. Kristen Scarpato Vanderbilt https://www.vumc.org/urology/person/kristen-scarpato-md-mph
Dan Gifford, Pensacola, FL
Tapping out for the night. See you next week.
AnCan – rick
My bet is that Carroll would not recommend annual Bx for 3+3.
