Hi-Risk/Recurrent/Advanced PrCa Video Chat, Dec 23, 2025
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HEADSUP – long session
Editor’s Pick: AFib may dictate use of ARSI – 2nd line anti-androgen
Topics Discussed
Dublin EI Newbie needs a GU MO; … and so does 85 yr old from Eau Claire, WI who’s Mayo doc has lost the way; roller coaster metastatic Gent starting with Kishan at UCLA; almost through RT, and finds germline CHEK2; doing well and very thankful to AnCan; germline BRCA2 man not gettiing SoC in Mississippi; great chemo results – now explore debulking; should a man with Afib be on abiraterone?; waiting for PSMA scan after 3x Pluvicto; fatigue & brain fog from abi doublet; avoid 6-month depot LHRH; Dr. Szmulewicz recommends debulking; Florida vacay interferes with treatment plan; 2nd opinion on Bx required; SBRT vs IMRT for man with urinary issues
Dr. Ming Zhou Mount Sinai Health System Department of Pathology, Box 1194 Annenberg Bldg. 15th FL 1468 Madison Ave New York, NY 10029 Email: Ming.zhou@mountsinai.org Telephone: (212)241-8881
Jeff Marchi – San Francisco sent: 6:49 PM
Gotta run. Merry Christmas and happy new year to all.
Hi-Risk/Recurrent/Advanced PrCa Video Chat, Nov 17, 2025
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Views expressed in this Recording are solely the opinion of AnCan Foundation, our Moderators and Participants.
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AnCan cannot and does not provide medical advice. We encourage you to discuss anything you hear in our sessions with your own medical team.
AnCan reminds all Participants that Adverse Events experienced from prescribed drugs or protocols should be reported to the pharmaceutical manufacturer or the FDA Adverse Event Reporting System (FAERS). To do so call 1-800-332-1066 or download interactive FDA Form 3500 https://www.fda.gov/media/76299/download
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Veterans Speaking freely… 4th Tuesday @ @ 8.00 pm Eastern Schmier Room
Editor’s Pick: Assessing recurrence and IDC-P repeat this week.
Topics Discussed
Signs of recurrence after 8 years; lymphedema and RT; does Newbie understand his proposed RT – is it optimal?; signs of BRCA2 recurrence post RP; doublet or triplet for denovo Mx Gent with IDC-P; explaining types of HT treatment; likely PSMA negative Gent challenged to confirm recurrence; PSA spike & fall for IHT man; fatigue after ARSI is added; estradiol supplement experience; pushing exercise helps mitigate HT; IDC-P teatment challenge – RP vs RT; bisphosphonate vs denosumab as bone strengthener
Chat
Larry (Alaska)
sent: 6:17 PM
Was there a decipher test? indicating aggressiveness?
Larry (Alaska)
sent: 6:24 PM
I wonder how old those NIH studies Barbara and Joe are reading?
while that email may work I got a different address
Jeff Marchi – San Francisco
sent: 6:53 PM
Send an email to Ming.zhou@mountsinai.org to inquire about a second opinion and ask for his specific instructions for the process.
Jim Stewart Reno, NV
sent: 7:07 PM
have to sign off, thanks all and have a good night
Jon McPhee Toronto
sent: 7:33 PM
Have to go. Thanks for the meeting.
Larry (Alaska)
sent: 7:37 PM
AI just told me that 1- micro-ultrasound does not require a contrast dye and uses equipment that is more accessible than MRI. 2- Other than that, they seem to be seen as complementary rather than competing. MRI is better at detecting some lesions and micro-ultrasound better at others.
Stan Friedman
sent: 7:48 PM
Sorry. Need to sign off. Will update on my pluvicto treatments next week. Thanks.
Jim Marshall, Veteran, Alexandria, VA
sent: 7:53 PM
Chocolate is a veggie!!!!!! Jim
TonyFig
sent: 7:53 PM
Rick will get a 3 knot boost when rowing with caffeine
St
sent: 7:56 PM
my experience has been that the fatigue comes mainly from lack of estrogen, not from the lack of T. An E2 patch helped me enormously
Bob Y. Los Angeles
sent: 7:57 PM
I had a couple of short questions, but I have to leave now. I’ve had an MRI and a biopsy, Gleason 4+5. I’m waiting to get a PET Scan on Dec 5th. I was hoping to get the PET earlier and so I made an appt with a urologic oncologist, Timothy Daskivich for a 2nd opinion on Nov 26th. Now I’ll be going to see him without being able to show him the PET results. I’m wondering if that appt is still valuable.
Barbara and Joe
sent: 7:59 PM
why do you have to take something as toxic as prednisone with abiraterone?
Don Rogers
sent: 8:00 PM
got to go
Eric James; Tyler TX
sent: 8:00 PM
Barbara and Joe: side effects of abiraterone. Your body stops producing cortisol on abiraterone so it needs to be replaced with something similar.
AnCan–John A
sent: 8:00 PM
Barbara and Joe the body absolutely needs the corticosteroid.
Jim Marshall, Veteran, Alexandria, VA
sent: 8:01 PM
Abi stops the Adrenal Glands which makes Cortisol. Presidnsone makes the Cortisol.
Jim Marshall, Veteran, Alexandria, VA
sent: 8:02 PM
One needs Cortisol. Jim Marshall
AnCan – rick
sent: 8:10 PM
Estradiol seminar w. Steve S https://ancan.org/talking-estradiol-e2-for-recurrent-and-advanced-prostate-cancer/
Keith H. (southern Oregon)
sent: 8:15 PM
thanks for all this, I got to go, but grateful for expertise and this group.
Thomas Matica
sent: 8:21 PM
Short update. Can wait till next meeting. Got to run. Thanks everyone.
Barbara and Joe
sent: 8:23 PM
I hope it’s a low dose of predisone — it just about killed my mother with her rheumatoid arthritis.
Jim Marshall, Veteran, Alexandria, VA
sent: 8:23 PM
5mg of Prednisone is used. Jim M
Jim Marshall, Veteran, Alexandria, VA
sent: 8:24 PM
Although once you stop it one still should taper off versus Cold Turkey. Jim
Steve White
sent: 8:28 PM
Have to drop…thanks again
Alfredo in Houston, TX
sent: 8:35 PM
I must drop off now, thank you everyone; stay well.
Hi-Risk/Recurrent/Advanced PrCa Video Chat, Nov 3, 2025
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Views expressed in this Recording are solely the opinion of AnCan Foundation, our Moderators and Participants.
AnCan does not accept sponsored promotion. Any drugs, protocols or devices discussed are based solely on anecdotal peer experience or clinical evidence.
AnCan cannot and does not provide medical advice. We encourage you to discuss anything you hear in our sessions with your own medical team.
AnCan reminds all Participants that Adverse Events experienced from prescribed drugs or protocols should be reported to the pharmaceutical manufacturer or the FDA Adverse Event Reporting System (FAERS). To do so call 1-800-332-1066 or download interactive FDA Form 3500 https://www.fda.gov/media/76299/download
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Veterans Speaking freely… 4th Tuesday @ @ 8.00 pm Eastern Schmier Room
Editor’s Pick: High volume de novo metastatic diagnosis calls for triplet therapy.
Topics Discussed
Newbie with IDC-P (intraductal ) graduates from Low/Intermediate to High Risk Group; … and this Newbie goes the other way; last Newbie’s in the right group – denovo Mx & triplet Tx; wait on debulking treatment; 6 mo. doublet may not have been enough – discuss resumption w. Rettig; restart that prednisone ASAP; what to watch out for starting chemo – Neulasta, freeze packs et al; surgery removes cystitis tissue and finds no cancer
Chat (unabridged)
AnCan – rick
sent: 6:13 PM
877 852 7011 GoTo help
Jim K
sent: 6:18 PM
Yes, my med onc suggested that I check out AUS bcz of my incontinence.
I’d like to see if anyone in the group has had the artificial sphincter put in.
I used to attend X (?) years ago, and stay in touch with Rick, and read the emails. I’ve been undetectable since June 2019, after a recurrence and radiation, after a Rad Pros in Aug 2017.
Jeff Marchi – San Francisco
sent: 6:23 PM
Jay from Miami raised his hand about intraductal
Jim K
sent: 6:23 PM
Thumbs up.
No. Vietnam started to wind down by the time I hit 18, if I recall correctly.
AnCan–John A
sent: 6:25 PM
Jim K; So you have no mike but can hear us, right? I have had the AUS. —John A
Jim K
sent: 6:25 PM
Yes, no mic, but can hear the members.
Jim Marshall, Veteran, Alexandria, VA
sent: 6:26 PM
Think Jim K mike may work. Jim M
Jim K
sent: 6:27 PM
I’m using the browser, on Chrome, not the app, but it’s not enabling my mic. I’m on a Mac laptop.
Yeah, no discernable improvement with Kegels. I use 7 or more pads per day. Just one at night. BUT, to keep my remaining kidney in good shape, I drink 96 oz of water per day, so, lots of peeing, understandably.
Thanks, Larry, I’ll email you.
Steve R.
sent: 6:30 PM
A short video on Intraductal diagnosis and treatment from Urology Times https://www.urologytimes.com/view/dr-miron-on-the-treatment-of-intraductal-carcinoma-of-the-prostate
Will discuss it tomorrow night. Give Dr P my best. My PSA = 0.12 and I do not go back to her till it reaches PSA=0.8-1.0. Might be sometime next year. Jim
Frank Ciambra
sent: 7:06 PM
good night
Mark N
sent: 7:12 PM
Dr. John, I just sent you Dr. Epstein’s biopsy results. Thank you
Jeff Marchi – San Francisco
sent: 7:12 PM
Chicago Illinois Which one? At U of Chicago Russell Szmulewitz, MD – UChicago Medicine Or at Northwestern David J VanderWeele : Physician Profile: Robert H. Lurie Comprehensive Cancer Center of Northwestern University : Feinberg School of Medicine: Northwestern University
Jeff Marchi – San Francisco
sent: 7:15 PM
MSI (microsatellite instability) testing for prostate cancer is performed in specialized pathology laboratories using tissue samples obtained during a biopsy or surgery.
Len Sierra
sent: 7:17 PM
According to AI, Tumor Mutational Burden (TMB) can be measured in both solid tissue biopsy (tTMB) and liquid biopsy (bTMB
Concordance between liquid TMB and tissue TMB can vary if tumor is not shedding into the blood.
Gary Martin
sent: 7:23 PM
Thank you very helpful information.
Jim Marshall, Veteran, Alexandria, VA
sent: 7:30 PM
I did 60 mionths of ADT + Abi and now am 39+ months into a Treatment Holiday. Jim Marshall
Jon McPhee Toronto
sent: 7:31 PM
What duration of doublet is recommended?
Jim Marshall, Veteran, Alexandria, VA
sent: 7:32 PM
Amount of time answer …. It Depends on many factors.
Bob Schwartz U.S.N. Venice, FL.
sent: 7:35 PM
Congrats Capt. Jim, 39+ months is GREAT!
Jim Marshall, Veteran, Alexandria, VA
sent: 7:37 PM
Eligard & Lupron is the exact same drug with a different method of delivery. Jim
Jim K
sent: 7:40 PM
I have to go, but am interested in AUS surgery. My email is: jimkubat@yahoo.com, if any of you have any time to chat about it. Larry, I’ll reach out. Thanks, Rick!!
AnCan – rick
sent: 7:42 PM
Orgovyx
Hank Zajic Springfield VA
sent: 7:48 PM
I have to go. Thank you everyone.
dan-s
sent: 7:51 PM
I have to go Gents… thanks for another great session
Gary Martin
sent: 7:57 PM
I asked about getting the anti-neutropenia meds and was told they did not plan on ordering those. My blood counts have not been extremely low and I seem to be tolerating docetaxel so far thru 5 infusion, though fatigue has been increasing.
Bruce Schrimpf
sent: 7:59 PM
Must run. Thanks for a great session! I will see Capt. Jim tomorrow.
Joe Comanda (Philadelphia)
sent: 8:00 PM
Need to take off. Will hold my question for another time.
Eric Curtis
sent: 8:05 PM
Gotta run. Appreciate the info
Gary Martin
sent: 8:05 PM
I’ve used cryotherapy (gloves and socks) circulating ice water with Polar Products equipment (available on Amazon) Use it 15 minutes before, during, and 15 minutes after infusion. So far, it’s working to avoid/minimize neuropathy. I also got the frozen gel gloves and socks as backup. It’s a hassle but I think wellworth the effort.
AnCan thanks the following sponsors for making this recording possible: Bayer, Novartis, Johnson and Johnson, Myriad Genetics, Telix, Blue Earth Diagnostics and Foundation Medicine.
Views expressed in this Recording are solely the opinion of AnCan Foundation, our Moderators and Participants.
AnCan does not accept sponsored promotion. Any drugs, protocols or devices discussed are based solely on anecdotal peer experience or clinical evidence.
AnCan cannot and does not provide medical advice. We encourage you to discuss anything you hear in our sessions with your own medical team.
AnCan reminds all Participants that Adverse Events experienced from prescribed drugs or protocols should be reported to the pharmaceutical manufacturer or the FDA Adverse Event Reporting System (FAERS). To do so call 1-800-332-1066 or download interactive FDA Form 3500 https://www.fda.gov/media/76299/download
All AnCan’s groups are free and drop-in … join us in person sometime! You can find out more about our 12 monthly prostate cancer meetings at https://ancan.org/prostate-cancer/ Sign up to receive a weekly Reminder/Newsletter for this Group or others at https://ancan.org/contact-us/
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Veterans Speaking freely… 4th Tuesday @ @ 8.00 pm Eastern Schmier Room
Editor’s Pick: Unpredictable & outstanding response to surgery for G4+5 man
Topics Discussed
Is Metastasis Directed Therapy right for me; G4+5 Gent has unpredictable & outstanding response to surgery; did his MSKCC GU MO really clock this Gent was taking abi w/o prednisone?; good response to ‘triplet’ post Pluvicto, but for how long then what next… alpha RLT?; is G4+5 hi-volume denovo Mx man ready for IHT after 18 months? what about debulking?; CARIS has good webinar on CHIP mutations; muscle pain from ADT; don’t just call, put it in your patient portal; Dr. Jack doesn’t favor ibuprofen
Chat Log
Bob McHugh sent: 3:37 PM
Curious to know who did the surgery … What about side effects, if I may ask? Please remind RD that there is no government work right nowL LOL
Steve – My respone is a bit complicated. If you’re interested, send me you email.
Julian – Houston sent: 4:00 PM
Need to leave early. Thanks again!!!
Steven T sent: 4:27 PM
Thanks everyone. Have a good night.
AnCan–John A sent: 4:36 PM
i have always been uncomfortable that RT wasn’t part of his treatment plan. I think he’s undertreated, though psa is .02. so I’m not happy about deintensifying
J. Ward sent: 4:42 PM
Need to leave early. Thanks, all!!
dan- no time needed tonight sent: 4:48 PM
Thanks all… another good session
AnCan – rick sent: 4:54 PM
Theraworx
Bruce Schrimpf sent: 5:03 PM
I will offer a prayer for Mr. Mason.
5Nice being with you all and thanks for the good imformation!
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AnCan thanks the following sponsors for making this recording possible: Bayer, Novartis, Johnson and Johnson, Myriad Genetics, Telix, Blue Earth Diagnostics and Foundation Medicine.
Views expressed in this Recording are solely the opinion of AnCan Foundation, our Moderators and Participants.
AnCan does not accept sponsored promotion. Any drugs, protocols or devices discussed are based solely on anecdotal peer experience or clinical evidence.
AnCan cannot and does not provide medical advice. We encourage you to discuss anything you hear in our sessions with your own medical team.
AnCan reminds all Participants that Adverse Events experienced from prescribed drugs or protocols should be reported to the pharmaceutical manufacturer or the FDA Adverse Event Reporting System (FAERS). To do so call 1-800-332-1066 or download interactive FDA Form 3500 https://www.fda.gov/media/76299/download
All AnCan’s groups are free and drop-in … join us in person sometime! You can find out more about our 12 monthly prostate cancer meetings at https://ancan.org/prostate-cancer/ Sign up to receive a weekly Reminder/Newsletter for this Group or others at https://ancan.org/contact-us/
Join our other free and drop in groups:
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Veterans Speaking freely… 4th Tuesday @ @ 8.00 pm Eastern Schmier Room
Editor’s Pick: One Gent rechallenges Pluvicto… another follows rechallenge with a ‘triplet’.
Topics Discussed
Addressing recurrence after focal tx (IRE) 10 yrs ago; new GU MO in northern New Jersey; how much adjuvant doublet HT is needed; another treatment line with triplet… abi+carbo+docetaxel; blood thinners; rechallenging Pluvicto is largely well tolerated; look at blood count numbers as a whole; nutrition… how about chicken?; how far ahead of RT should adjuvant HT start?
Steve L sent: 6:25 PM I was recently taken off Eliquis and but back on 81mg aspirin.
Jim Marshall, Veteran, Alexandria, VA sent: 6:26 PM Abi can affect the QT & QTc elongation time which I have when I get a EKG. Am also on Pradaxa for AFib. Pradaxa =. Dabigatran Etexilate
Jim Marshall, Veteran, Alexandria, VA sent: 6:38 PM Hey Jersey Mike has TUNA Subs!!!!
Jeff Marchi – San Francisco sent: 6:44 PM peter Kafka had 2 pluvicto treatments and his PSA went to .04 after a lot of hot spots in a PSMA pet. stopped at 2 sessions it was so successful
Julian – Houston sent: 6:45 PM Another wonderful conversation! Good Night all!!!
Bruce Schrimpf sent: 6:48 PM Great meeting! Thanks to all!
AnCan–John A sent: 6:57 PM Anticancer Lifestyle website has nutrition information I think is reliable. https://anticancerlifestyle.org/
Jeff Marchi – San Francisco sent: 6:59 PM chicken articles from National Cancer institute and NIH
Richard B, Silver Spring, MD sent: 7:02 PM I need to step away for the evening. Thanks to everyone for their insightful commentary it was beneficial . Take care
Bruce Schrimpf sent: 7:06 PM I have gotten all sorts of information about chicken and chicken eggs. It has more to do with how the chicken is grown and prepared. I eat my eggs poached, never fried. I eat my chicken baked and hopefully raised without antibiotics or growth hormones. I love fried and broasted (pressurized deep frying) but almost ever eat it. BDS
Alfredo in Wimberley sent: 7:09 PM Thank You. and Good Night!
