Hi-Risk/Recurrent/Advanced PrCa Video Chat, Dec 9, 2025

Hi-Risk/Recurrent/Advanced PrCa Video Chat, Dec 9, 2025

Hi-Risk/Recurrent/Advanced PrCa Video Chat, Dec 9, 2025

AnCan thanks the following sponsors for making this recording possible: Bayer, Novartis, Johnson and Johnson, Telix, Blue Earth Diagnostics and Foundation Medicine.
Views expressed in this Recording are solely the opinion of AnCan Foundation, our Moderators and Participants.

AnCan does not accept sponsored promotion. Any drugs, protocols or devices discussed are based solely on anecdotal peer experience or clinical evidence.
AnCan cannot and does not provide medical advice. We encourage you to discuss anything you hear in our sessions with your own medical team.

AnCan reminds all Participants that Adverse Events experienced from prescribed drugs or protocols should be reported to the pharmaceutical manufacturer or the FDA Adverse Event Reporting System (FAERS). To do so call 1-800-332-1066 or download interactive FDA Form 3500 https://www.fda.gov/media/76299/download

All AnCan’s groups are free and drop-in … join us in person sometime! You can find out more about our 12 monthly prostate cancer meetings at https://ancan.org/prostate-cancer/ Sign up to receive a weekly Reminder/Newsletter for this Group or others at https://ancan.org/contact-us/

Join our other free and drop in groups:
Men (Only) Speaking Freely…1st & 3rd Thursdays @ 8.00 pm Eastern https://ancan.org/men-speaking-freely/
Veterans Healthcare Navigation… 1st & 3rd Tuesdays @ 8.00 pm Eastern Schmier Room https://ancan.org/veterans/
Veterans Speaking freely… 4th Tuesday @ @ 8.00 pm Eastern Schmier Room

Editor’s Pick: Lotsa confusion throughout this week! To pick just one, Signatera MRD test.

Topics Discussed

Newbie has a great HCP team – but seeking more; Mayo bamboozles this Newbie – needs more and reliable information; another Newbie chose to leave himself on ADT for 5 years – and wonders about fatigue and weight gain he’s now shed w. GLP; muscle mass with low T; Regular finds Signatera MRD test – but it’s not yet FDA approved for prostate cancer… & Dr. Jack’s been following this test a long time; Epstein downgrades Gent from 4+5 to 4+3 – Kishan & MR Linac next; elevated liver enzymes after chemo; steady as he goes with 0.03 rise; what’s pituitary’s role for testosterone; PSA testing during Pluvicto

Chat
  • Alexander Lalov, Pendleton, IN

    sent: 4:13 PM

    Is the recording going to be made public?

  • Eric James; Tyler TX

    sent: 4:13 PM

    yes, on Youtube

  • AnCan – rick

    sent: 4:14 PM

    All our Recordings are posted on YuTube – over 700

  • Larry (Veteran, Alaskan)

    sent: 4:16 PM

    Check your camera shutter at the top of your screen

  • AnCan – rick

    sent: 4:19 PM

    877 582 7011 GoTo

  • Jeff Marchi – San Francisco

    sent: 4:28 PM

    free genetic testing PROMISE PCa Germline Project

  • AnCan – rick

    sent: 4:31 PM

    Tx Jeff – Doug has germline already

  • Jeff Marchi – San Francisco

    sent: 4:32 PM

    ok i hear you

  • Alexander Lalov, Pendleton, IN

    sent: 4:34 PM

    As far as I know PROMISE do Hereditary Cancer Test Only.

  • AnCan – rick

    sent: 4:35 PM

    Yes Promise is only germline

  • AnCan – rick

    sent: 4:35 PM

    Gents – I have poor bandwidth today . There’s an interent issue here.

  • AnCan – rick

    sent: 4:47 PM

  • Jim Marshall, Veteran, Alexandria, VA

    sent: 4:59 PM

    When you ask for the Promise test, do not specify any doctor. It is between you and Promise. Jim

  • Jay in MN

    sent: 5:10 PM

    👍

  • AnCan – rick

    sent: 5:15 PM

    Dr. Jonathan Epstein – https://advanceduropathology.com/ Tel: 516-760-2037 jepstein@imppllc.com

  • AnCan – rick

    sent: 5:16 PM

    Dr. Ming Zhou Mount Sinai Health System Department of Pathology, Box 1194 Annenberg Bldg. 15th FL 1468 Madison Ave New York, NY 10029 Email: Ming.zhou@mountsinai.org Telephone: (212)241-8881

    Jay – those are the 2 pathologists for a 2nd opinion.

  • Alexander Lalov, Pendleton, IN

    sent: 5:27 PM

    Bary, would you post the web address, please

  • Alexander Lalov, Pendleton, IN

    sent: 5:28 PM

    Oh, Withing is the name. Thnx!

  • John G.

    sent: 5:28 PM

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ado6dItMebE Yes, even on androgen deprivation therapy (ADT) with testosterone suppressed to near-zero (castration levels), you can increase muscle mass and strength through resistance training, though gains are typically modest and focused on counteracting atrophy rather than dramatic hypertrophy.[1][3] ## Evidence from Studies Multiple clinical trials show prostate cancer patients on ADT gaining muscle mass and fiber size after 12–20 weeks of supervised resistance training, including compound lifts like squats and presses, performed 2–3 times weekly. Progressive overload—gradually increasing weights—prevents fiber size decline in both type I and II muscles and boosts capillarization for better performance. These adaptations occur via mechanical loading and protein synthesis pathways independent of testosterone, such as IGF-1 signaling.

  • Larry (Veteran, Alaskan)

    sent: 5:28 PM

    YMCA “Livestrong” program is designed for cancer survivors. Look it up

  • Larry (Veteran, Alaskan)

    sent: 5:29 PM

    Government funded, so it is free and includes YMCA membership for the 12 week duration,

  • AnCan – rick

    sent: 5:29 PM

  • Eric James; Tyler TX

    sent: 5:30 PM

    Yes, muscle mass may be increased, if you haven’t already been doing resistance training.

  • Larry (Veteran, Alaskan)

    sent: 5:32 PM

    Lupron has been demonstrated to cause weight gain. I am not sure about lymphedema, though.

  • Larry (Veteran, Alaskan)

    sent: 5:33 PM

    Ask about going on an ADT “Vacation”. Stop the ADT and closely observe the PSA response.

  • AnCan – rick

    sent: 5:34 PM

    rick rd@ancan.org dr. john dr.john@ancan.org

  • Larry (Veteran, Alaskan)

    sent: 5:34 PM

    If you go on ADT vacation, do it with the supervision of your oncologist.

  • AnCan – rick

    sent: 5:35 PM

    Larry – he needs to find a new oncologist

  • Eric James; Tyler TX

    sent: 5:49 PM

    Did Dr. Epstein provide any other details? % 4 vs %3? Invasion, intraductal, etc.?

  • AnCan – rick

    sent: 5:56 PM

  • AnCan – rick

    sent: 5:58 PM

    RT machine is MR-Linac

  • Steve Roux, North Michigan

    sent: 6:07 PM

    sorry guys – I need to bug out.

Active Surveillance Prostate Cancer Video Chat, December 10th, 2025

Active Surveillance Prostate Cancer Video Chat, December 10th, 2025

Active Surveillance Prostate Cancer Video Chat, December 10th, 2025

 

 

AnCan is grateful to the following sponsors for making this recording possible: Bayer, Novartis, Johnson and Johnson, Myriad Genetics, Telix, and Blue Earth Diagnostics.

Active Surveillance (AS) for low-risk prostate cancer involves unique challenges compared to other treatments. This online support group is designed for men and their caregivers who are currently on or considering AS. We hold four meetings monthly, recording only the second and fourth sessions. Our discussions cover a wide range of topics, including anxiety management, biopsy experiences, and the decision-making process around continuing or discontinuing AS. Newcomers are given priority to share their experiences, so we encourage you to join us.

You can find out more about our 12 monthly prostate cancer meetings at https://ancan.org/prostate-cancer/. Sign up to receive a weekly Reminder/Newsletter for this Group or others at https://ancan.org/contact-us/.

 

Chat Log:

Hugh -Houston
2nd Opinions for Biopsies: -Jonathan Epstein, MD https://advanceduropathology.com -Ming Zhou, MD, PHD Now at Mount Sinai Health System in New York City. If you have questions for him, please contact him directly at Email: Ming.zhou@mountsinai.org) -John Hopkins Pathology https://pathology.jhu.edu/patient-care/second-opinions

Derek
👍

Eric- Atlanta
PROMISE/COLOR Genetic Study w/ANCAN affiliate link: https://www.prostatecancerpromise.org/?utm_campaign=ANCAN&utm_medium=link&utm_source=Webinar

Eric- Atlanta
Men Speaking Freely: https://ancan.org/series/men-speaking-freely/

Eric- Atlanta
Food & Nutrition: https://ancan.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/Prostate-Ca-AS_Nov-2020.pdf

Eric- Atlanta
2nd Opinions for MRIs: Botimage AI for MRIs: https://botimageai.com/prostatid/ ~$250, can also be used for biopsy targeting guidance -Second opinion of MRI from Johns Hopkins Images and Reports for Providers | Johns Hopkins Radiology (hopkinsmedicine.org) Email: eradiologycenter@jhmi.edu Phone: 443-287-7378 Fax: 443-769-1210 NIH 2nd Opinion MRI (no fees): Choyke, Peter (NIH/NCI) Radiologist pchoyke@mail.nih.gov -Accolade Radiology NY, PA https://accoladeradiology.com/mritap.html Radiology Check (Switzerland) https://radiologycheck.com/en

AnCan Bill
Got to drop gentlemen. Thanks for helping out Martin (and everyone else). Take care.

Martin Uthe
thank you. Bill!

Eric- Atlanta
Thank you Bill

AnCan – rick
Great advice, Dan G

Martin Uthe
Hi guys- have to run. Thank you so much for your time and support. Talk to you on Friday, Howard.

Howard Wolinsky
Dr. Eggener UCLA

Howard Wolinsky
FYI on perineural invasion–sounds scary–https://howardwolinsky.substack.com/p/part-ii-the-perineural-invaders?utm_source=publication-search

Joel _ Manassas, VA
Much appreciate all the helpful discussion. Best to all

Steve K
Thank you all!

 

 

Hi-Risk/Recurrent/Advanced PrCa Video Chat, Dec 9, 2025

Hi-Risk/Recurrent/Advanced PrCa Video Chat, Mon. Dec 1, 2025

Hi-Risk/Recurrent/Advanced PrCa Video Chat, Dec 1, 2025

AnCan thanks the following sponsors for making this recording possible: Bayer, Novartis, Johnson and Johnson, Myriad Genetics, Telix, Blue Earth Diagnostics and Foundation Medicine.
Views expressed in this Recording are solely the opinion of AnCan Foundation, our Moderators and Participants.

AnCan does not accept sponsored promotion. Any drugs, protocols or devices discussed are based solely on anecdotal peer experience or clinical evidence.
AnCan cannot and does not provide medical advice. We encourage you to discuss anything you hear in our sessions with your own medical team.

AnCan reminds all Participants that Adverse Events experienced from prescribed drugs or protocols should be reported to the pharmaceutical manufacturer or the FDA Adverse Event Reporting System (FAERS). To do so call 1-800-332-1066 or download interactive FDA Form 3500 https://www.fda.gov/media/76299/download

All AnCan’s groups are free and drop-in … join us in person sometime! You can find out more about our 12 monthly prostate cancer meetings at https://ancan.org/prostate-cancer/ Sign up to receive a weekly Reminder/Newsletter for this Group or others at https://ancan.org/contact-us/

Join our other free and drop in groups:
Men (Only) Speaking Freely…1st & 3rd Thursdays @ 8.00 pm Eastern https://ancan.org/men-speaking-freely/
Veterans Healthcare Navigation… 1st & 3rd Tuesdays @ 8.00 pm Eastern Schmier Room https://ancan.org/veterans/
Veterans Speaking freely… 4th Tuesday @ @ 8.00 pm Eastern Schmier Room

Editor’s Pick: How do you pick a doctor for a second opinion?

Topics Discussed

bladder control during salvage RT sessions; surgery vs RT for Gent with IDC-P; who to trust for a 2n opinion; gratitude for AnCan’s support; embarking on chemo on ice – report after 1st round;… abd finishing chemo – what next?: recurrence after salvage RT 7 yrs calls for PSMA – but KP is slow on the uptake; T level falls in hours after starrting Orgovyx… really??

Chat
  • AnCan – rick

    sent: 6:03 PM

    877 582 7011

  • AnCan – rick

    sent: 6:05 PM

    Number for GoTo technical support

  • Bob Y — Los Angeles

    sent: 6:21 PM

    Gerry, How did you decide on surgery as the first line of treatment?

  • Jeff Marchi – San Francisco

    sent: 6:27 PM

    wiesner clamp

  • AnCan–John A

    sent: 6:40 PM

    MSKCC nomogram

  • AnCan – rick

    sent: 6:40 PM

    http://nomograms.mskcc.org/Prostate/index.aspx

  • Gerry & Cynthia

    sent: 6:41 PM

    thank you

  • AnCan–John A

    sent: 6:44 PM

    I see PSA, gleason, age, NCCN risk, and tumor stage on the arterra report

  • AnCan–John A

    sent: 6:45 PM

    and the bx slides of course

  • AnCan – rick

    sent: 6:51 PM

    Partin tables

  • Mark N

    sent: 6:52 PM

    Labcorp test 481220

  • TonyFig

    sent: 6:53 PM

    here is another similar labcorp test https://www.labcorp.com/tests/483555/vistaseq-prostate-panel

  • AnCan–John A

    sent: 6:56 PM

    If your focus is on inherited genetic risk factors, the Color gene test is likely more complete. If you are seeking tumor-specific genetic profiling or somatic mutations relevant to prostate cancer management, Labcorp #481220 might be more comprehensive.

  • Jeff Marchi – San Francisco

    sent: 6:57 PM

    Check out how running may stop prostate cancer from getting worse https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12535562/

  • AnCan–John A

    sent: 6:57 PM

    All I can find so far on #483555 is it’s specially for prostate cancer

  • Eric James; Tyler TX

    sent: 7:05 PM

    has anyone had trouble with their camera working on Go To Meeting? Sometimes my camera works on these meetings and sometimes it doesn’t.

  • Jeff Marchi – San Francisco

    sent: 7:06 PM

    5 years, 4 different camers on PC, IPADs and iphone

  • Jeff Marchi – San Francisco

    sent: 7:06 PM

    never a problem

  • Jeff Marchi – San Francisco

    sent: 7:06 PM

    are you on a PC?

  • Eric James; Tyler TX

    sent: 7:06 PM

    yes

  • Jim Marshall, Veteran, Alexandria, VA

    sent: 7:07 PM

    When I cheaped out on buying Internet bandwidth. Jim

  • Jeff Marchi – San Francisco

    sent: 7:07 PM

    if camera doesn’t work go to gear at top right and check camera settings. is the right one selected

  • Eric James; Tyler TX

    sent: 7:08 PM

    I only have one camera. In the PC.

  • Eric James; Tyler TX

    sent: 7:08 PM

    I suppose I could try adding a new external camera

  • Gary Martin

    sent: 7:08 PM

    My PC camera did not work tonight for first time (after WIndows 11 update). Had to switch to external camera.

  • Jeff Marchi – San Francisco

    sent: 7:08 PM

    some windows 10 cameras don’t work with win 11

  • Mark N

    sent: 7:09 PM

    I had to restart my laptop to get it connect to my mic tonight

  • Eric James; Tyler TX

    sent: 7:09 PM

    I

  • Jeff Marchi – San Francisco

    sent: 7:09 PM

    restarting is a real fix many times

  • Jim Marshall, Veteran, Alexandria, VA

    sent: 7:09 PM

    When I do GOTO I make sure no other apps are running. Many folks leave a whole bunch of apps open which takes memory. Jim

  • Eric James; Tyler TX

    sent: 7:09 PM

    I’ve restarted, tried in Chrome and Outlook.

  • Jeff Marchi – San Francisco

    sent: 7:10 PM

    did the camera work with zoom or other app

  • Jim Marshall, Veteran, Alexandria, VA

    sent: 7:10 PM

    Are you using the Browser Interface for Chrome. Jim

  • Eric James; Tyler TX

    sent: 7:11 PM

    It has always worked in the past with zoom

  • Eric James; Tyler TX

    sent: 7:11 PM

    I’ve opened in Chrome and Outlook. I don’t know what an interface is.

  • Jeff Marchi – San Francisco

    sent: 7:11 PM

    ask goto support 877 582 7011

  • Jeff Marchi – San Francisco

    sent: 7:12 PM

    you mean edge not outlook

  • Eric James; Tyler TX

    sent: 7:12 PM

    yes

  • Eric James; Tyler TX

    sent: 7:13 PM

    I’ll try calling go to support and possibly try an external camera

  • Larry Schuller

    sent: 7:13 PM

    Interface: where two systems or programs talk to each other/exchange signals

  • Eric James; Tyler TX

    sent: 7:13 PM

    thanks

  • Jeff Marchi – San Francisco

    sent: 7:13 PM

    electrolytes give more energy

  • Larry Schuller

    sent: 7:14 PM

    Exercise begets Energy…Putit on your car’s sunvisor. Put it on your refrigerator. Put it on your mirror

  • Jeff Marchi – San Francisco

    sent: 7:15 PM

    Check out how running may stop prostate cancer from getting worse https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12535562/

  • Jeff Marchi – San Francisco

    sent: 7:17 PM

    i could not run a mile on the track until I started taking electrolytes that enabled me to build up my stamina so I didn’t need it any longer

  • Jeff Marchi – San Francisco

    sent: 7:18 PM

    i run a mile twice every day

  • Jim Stewart Reno, NV

    sent: 7:24 PM

    have to sign off. grandkid duty…good night all!!!

  • Hank Zajic Springfield VA

    sent: 7:24 PM

    Thank you all for tonight’s session. I have to drop off.

  • RJ Smith (Seattle)

    sent: 7:25 PM

    Thanks all for the great words of encouragement! I’ll give myself a few breaks and still try to push through as far as is reasonable (without going too far).

  • Mark N

    sent: 7:28 PM

    Signing off, thanks !!

  • Larry Schuller

    sent: 7:28 PM

    Wait for it to come back? Or get ahead of what you think MIGHT happen? Hard choice.

  • Len

    sent: 7:43 PM

    Gary Martin and Mods – the PEACE-1 trial has a group of patients receiving RT added to the systemic triple therapy (ADT + Docetaxel + Abiraterone). The full results regarding the role of RT in this specific quadruplet combination are “highly anticipated.”

  • AnCan – rick

    sent: 7:53 PM

    https://ascopubs.org/doi/full/10.1200/JCO.22.02489

  • AnCan – rick

    sent: 7:53 PM

    https://www.medpagetoday.com/reading-room/asco/prostate-cancer/105340?xid=NL_ASCORR_2023-07-20&eun=g10110736d39r&pos=

  • Jim Marshall, Veteran, Alexandria, VA

    sent: 7:58 PM

    BE CONSISTENT getting the PSA test. Jim

  • Bob Y — Los Angeles

    sent: 8:01 PM

    Thank you, all. I am required by my family to leave the session. Appreciate all the help.

  • Jeff Marchi – San Francisco

    sent: 8:03 PM

    PSMA test was not available when my PSA rose after salvage radiation, if it was I would have held off Lupron

Active Surveillance Prostate Cancer Video Chat, December 10th, 2025

Active Surveillance Prostate Cancer Video Chat, November 26th, 2025

Active Surveillance Prostate Cancer Video Chat, November 26th, 2025

 

 

AnCan is grateful to the following sponsors for making this recording possible: Bayer, Novartis, Johnson and Johnson, Myriad Genetics, Telix, and Blue Earth Diagnostics. 

Active Surveillance (AS) for low-risk prostate cancer involves unique challenges compared to other treatments. This online support group is designed for men and their caregivers who are currently on or considering AS. We hold four meetings monthly, recording only the second and fourth sessions. Our discussions cover a wide range of topics, including anxiety management, biopsy experiences, and the decision-making process around continuing or discontinuing AS. Newcomers are given priority to share their experiences, so we encourage you to join us.

You can find out more about our 12 monthly prostate cancer meetings at https://ancan.org/prostate-cancer/. Sign up to receive a weekly Reminder/Newsletter for this Group or others at https://ancan.org/contact-us/.

 

Chat Log:

Chris L. (Windsor, CA)
Gut microbiome & phytochemical rich diet: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vR0QL3oR2k

Chris L. (Windsor, CA)
Asco highlights: https://www.urotoday.com/conference-highlights/asco-gu-2025/asco-gu-2025-prostate-cancer/158203-asco-gu-2025-gut-health-and-prostate-cancer-the-influence-of-a-specific-phytochemical-rich-food-capsule-plus-or-minus-a-probiotic-prebiotic-blend-on-symptoms-and-progression-a-randomised-double-blind-placebo-controlled-trial.html

Eric- Atlanta
https://howardwolinsky.substack.com/p/breaking-transperineal-biopsies-find?utm_source=publication-search

Bill Harris (Los Angeles)
Hi Rick. Hope all is well

Eric- Atlanta
Seminar link and info: https://aspatients.org/event/transperineal-vs-transrectal-biopsy-2025/

Eric- Atlanta
“Key Clinical Trials Driving the Debate Recent trials have brought new insights: Dr. Jim Hu (PREVENT, 2024): Zero infections with TP vs 1.4% with TR, suggesting a reduced risk of sepsis. Dr. Alastair Lamb and Dr. Richard Bryant (TRANSLATE, 2025): TP detected 5–6% more clinically significant cancers (Grade Group ≥ 2) and often required no antibiotics. Dr. Badar Mian (PRoBE-PC, 2024): Both methods proved safe and effective, giving patients more choice. Together, these studies have reshaped how experts think about prostate biopsy safety.”

Ray E Santa Monica Ca
https://www.perplexity.ai/search/262e8d77-95e5-4fef-aa07-9b7a313c25f1

Ray E Santa Monica Ca
Above is a run down on TP vs Transrectal biopsy

Bill (VA)
Walter Reed now performing TP

AnCan – rick
AnCan Prostate Cancer Debate Aug 2022 Dr. George vs Dr. Kaye https://ancan.org/webinar-prostate-cancer-biopsies-the-great-debate/

Bill Harris (Los Angeles)
Bill Harris wmharris@gmail.com

Bill Harris (Los Angeles)
(new inherited mutation group

Hi-Risk/Recurrent/Advanced PrCa Video Chat, Dec 9, 2025

Hi-Risk/Recurrent/Advanced PrCa Video Chat, Nov 25, 2025

Hi-Risk/Recurrent/Advanced PrCa Video Chat, Nov 25, 2025

Happy Thanksgiving to all our AnCan particpants, especially if not on our mailing list. We’d have to ask why not, when you can sign up at https://ancan.org/contact-us/ and recive our great Newsletter/Reminder.

CORRECTION (rd)

I want to apologize and make a correction for someting I said in last Tuesday’s support group. At the end we were discussing adding a couple of Pluvicto treatments to Metastatic Directed Therapy. However this was for a man who had progressed rather than having just been diagnosed oligometastatic as in the LUNAR trial reported in the Reminder last week. I mentioned he might be eligible in the USA as Pluvicto is approved for metastatic hormone sensitive  prostate cancer. This is not the case, and I misspoke. PSMAddtion was positively reported for mHSPC use at the recent ESMO conference – thank you Dr. Paul for this link. To date, it has not been FDA approved. I knew of the trial and got ahead of the game; although I was confusing it with PSMAFore.

 

AnCan thanks the following sponsors for making this recording possible: Bayer, Novartis, Johnson and Johnson, Myriad Genetics, Telix, Blue Earth Diagnostics and Foundation Medicine.
Views expressed in this Recording are solely the opinion of AnCan Foundation, our Moderators and Participants.

AnCan does not accept sponsored promotion. Any drugs, protocols or devices discussed are based solely on anecdotal peer experience or clinical evidence.
AnCan cannot and does not provide medical advice. We encourage you to discuss anything you hear in our sessions with your own medical team.

AnCan reminds all Participants that Adverse Events experienced from prescribed drugs or protocols should be reported to the pharmaceutical manufacturer or the FDA Adverse Event Reporting System (FAERS). To do so call 1-800-332-1066 or download interactive FDA Form 3500 https://www.fda.gov/media/76299/download

All AnCan’s groups are free and drop-in … join us in person sometime! You can find out more about our 12 monthly prostate cancer meetings at https://ancan.org/prostate-cancer/ Sign up to receive a weekly Reminder/Newsletter for this Group or others at https://ancan.org/contact-us/

Join our other free and drop in groups:
Men (Only) Speaking Freely…1st & 3rd Thursdays @ 8.00 pm Eastern https://ancan.org/men-speaking-freely/
Veterans Healthcare Navigation… 1st & 3rd Tuesdays @ 8.00 pm Eastern Schmier Room https://ancan.org/veterans/
Veterans Speaking freely… 4th Tuesday @ @ 8.00 pm Eastern Schmier Room

Editor’s Pick: Robust discussion around testoterone early on – and thoughts about combining therapies at the end.

Topics Discussed

how long to stay on HT leads to rich discussion on testosterone; did salvage cryo bring his PSA down? And he needs a GU MO QB; cupplementing T with Clomid is new to AnCan; casting around for intial treatment; ststarting Prolia that’s NO lifetime drug; tachycardia and AFib; recovering from 6x dicetaxel; b est treatment options for Stage T3 ; holding steady; allowing PSA to rise to find source of oligo-Mx; can we add Pluvicto to MDT later in the cycle?

Chat
  • Frank Ciambra sent: 5:10 PM

    my wife is a nurse working in cardiology ,im going to share this witth her

  • John M – Chicago sent: 5:11 PM

    Don I am doing great. Feeling stronger. Exercise is the KEY. Everything progressing according to plan. I’m going to my sons house to be with him, his wife and my grandson. What about you?

  • Jim Marshall, Veteran, Alexandria, VA sent: 5:27 PM

    AFib – Join the club with others. Jim Marshall

  • Julian – Houston sent: 5:29 PM

    I had AFIB then had cardiac ablation in March 25 and then it went away!

  • Jim Marshall, Veteran, Alexandria, VA sent: 5:30 PM

    AFib is Mutually exclusive with Vitamin K. Jim Marshall;

  • Jim Marshall, Veteran, Alexandria, VA sent: 5:32 PM

    Have AFib and take Blood Thinner, Pradaxa, Metropolol Tartrate and a Statin – Pravastatin. Jim Marshall

  • AnCan – rick sent: 5:33 PM

    abir-A-terone

  • Jim Marshall, Veteran, Alexandria, VA sent: 5:34 PM

    Lupron/Eligard and Abi have warnings for those who have heart issues. Jim Marshall

  • Alfredo in Houston, TX sent: 5:37 PM

    Vitamin K potentially interferes with anticoagulants (blood thinners). And you also get vitamin K in your diet from leafy greens. Everyone please remember to discuss ALL supplements with your physician AND pharmacist.

  • TonyFig sent: 5:39 PM

    There is a strong link between sleep apnea bringing on A-Fib.

  • Alfredo in Houston, TX sent: 5:41 PM

    I am being called to supper now, so I must leave — but not before wishing a Happy Thanksgiving to everyone. Good night

  • AnCan–John A sent: 5:48 PM

    stereotactic body radiation therapy

  • Julian – Houston sent: 5:53 PM

    Happy Thanksgiving to all!!!

  • TonyFig sent: 5:56 PM

    Blood Thinner – a naturopath approach for anticoagulation can be quite risky as it may not present consistent and reliable levels to address A-Fib episodes or other cardiac issues. I discussed this with cardiac surgeons as well as a heart biologic replacement valve supplier. I would not take the risk of naturopath solution for this application.

    Nattokanese, Vit E, Ginger, Omega Oils in high dose, Cayene Pepper Tumeric, etc

  • John M – Chicago sent: 6:04 PM

    Have a great Thanksgiving everyone!

  • Dennis Correia sent: 6:07 PM

    Happy Thanksgiving all

  • Barry Blomquist sent: 6:07 PM

    Have to jump – Happy Thanksgiving to everyone and thank you all!

  • dan-s sent: 6:09 PM

    Thanks all – Happy Thanksgiving

  • Jerry Pelfrey sent: 6:10 PM

    Time to go. Everyone have a wonderful Thanksgiving.

  • Larry (Alaska) sent: 6:14 PM

    Suggesting Pluvicto as first-line treatment instead of ADT as first-line?

  • Bob Y — Los Angeles sent: 6:15 PM

    Thank you, all, for your good counsel.

  • David Muslin sent: 6:17 PM

    Gobble Gobble love you guys

Hi-Risk/Recurrent/Advanced PrCa Video Chat, Dec 9, 2025

Hi-Risk/Recurrent/Advanced PrCa Video Chat, Nov 17, 2025

Hi-Risk/Recurrent/Advanced PrCa Video Chat, Nov 17, 2025

AnCan thanks the following sponsors for making this recording possible: Bayer, Novartis, Johnson and Johnson, Myriad Genetics, Telix, Blue Earth Diagnostics and Foundation Medicine.
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Editor’s Pick: Assessing recurrence and IDC-P repeat this week.

Topics Discussed

Signs of recurrence after 8 years; lymphedema and RT; does Newbie understand his proposed RT – is it optimal?; signs of BRCA2 recurrence post RP; doublet or triplet for denovo Mx Gent with IDC-P; explaining types of HT treatment; likely PSMA negative Gent challenged to confirm recurrence; PSA spike & fall for IHT man; fatigue after ARSI is added; estradiol supplement experience; pushing exercise helps mitigate HT; IDC-P teatment challenge – RP vs RT; bisphosphonate vs denosumab as bone strengthener

Chat
  • Larry (Alaska)

    sent: 6:17 PM

    Was there a decipher test? indicating aggressiveness?

  • Larry (Alaska)

    sent: 6:24 PM

    I wonder how old those NIH studies Barbara and Joe are reading?

  • Eric James; Tyler TX

    sent: 6:29 PM

  • Eric James; Tyler TX

    sent: 6:31 PM

    The higher rates of lymphedema are after pelvic irradiation following lymph node dissection

  • AnCan–John A

    sent: 6:31 PM

    Thx Eric

  • Bob Y. Los Angeles

    sent: 6:34 PM

    Question: for a Decipher Prostate Test… how do I get that genomic test? Does my doctor order it or what?

  • AnCan – rick

    sent: 6:35 PM

  • Eric James; Tyler TX

    sent: 6:35 PM

    Bob Y. Yes, generally done from your biopsy tissue

  • Jim Marshall, Veteran, Alexandria, VA

    sent: 6:35 PM

    There is Germline test and Somatic Test nothing to do with Decipher. Jim

  • Bob Y. Los Angeles

    sent: 6:38 PM

    Thanks. I’ll ask my urologist to run the Decipher test from my biopsy tissue.

  • Jeff Marchi – San Francisco

    sent: 6:43 PM

    get genetic test free here

  • Jeff Marchi – San Francisco

    sent: 6:43 PM

  • Luther Blake

    sent: 6:46 PM

    have to run gents, have a good evening

  • AnCan – rick

    sent: 5:57 PM

    GoTo technical support 877 582 7011

  • AnCan–John A

    sent: 6:48 PM

    ming.zhou@mtsinai.org, or https://profiles.mountsinai.org/ming-zhou OR

  • AnCan–John A

    sent: 6:49 PM

  • Jeff Marchi – San Francisco

    sent: 6:53 PM

    while that email may work I got a different address

  • Jeff Marchi – San Francisco

    sent: 6:53 PM

    Send an email to Ming.zhou@mountsinai.org to inquire about a second opinion and ask for his specific instructions for the process.

  • Jim Stewart Reno, NV

    sent: 7:07 PM

    have to sign off, thanks all and have a good night

  • Jon McPhee Toronto

    sent: 7:33 PM

    Have to go. Thanks for the meeting.

  • Larry (Alaska)

    sent: 7:37 PM

    AI just told me that 1- micro-ultrasound does not require a contrast dye and uses equipment that is more accessible than MRI. 2- Other than that, they seem to be seen as complementary rather than competing. MRI is better at detecting some lesions and micro-ultrasound better at others.

  • Stan Friedman

    sent: 7:48 PM

    Sorry. Need to sign off. Will update on my pluvicto treatments next week. Thanks.

  • Jim Marshall, Veteran, Alexandria, VA

    sent: 7:53 PM

    Chocolate is a veggie!!!!!! Jim

  • TonyFig

    sent: 7:53 PM

    Rick will get a 3 knot boost when rowing with caffeine

  • St

    sent: 7:56 PM

    my experience has been that the fatigue comes mainly from lack of estrogen, not from the lack of T. An E2 patch helped me enormously

  • Bob Y. Los Angeles

    sent: 7:57 PM

    I had a couple of short questions, but I have to leave now. I’ve had an MRI and a biopsy, Gleason 4+5. I’m waiting to get a PET Scan on Dec 5th. I was hoping to get the PET earlier and so I made an appt with a urologic oncologist, Timothy Daskivich for a 2nd opinion on Nov 26th. Now I’ll be going to see him without being able to show him the PET results. I’m wondering if that appt is still valuable.

  • Barbara and Joe

    sent: 7:59 PM

    why do you have to take something as toxic as prednisone with abiraterone?

  • Don Rogers

    sent: 8:00 PM

    got to go

  • Eric James; Tyler TX

    sent: 8:00 PM

    Barbara and Joe: side effects of abiraterone. Your body stops producing cortisol on abiraterone so it needs to be replaced with something similar.

  • AnCan–John A

    sent: 8:00 PM

    Barbara and Joe the body absolutely needs the corticosteroid.

  • Jim Marshall, Veteran, Alexandria, VA

    sent: 8:01 PM

    Abi stops the Adrenal Glands which makes Cortisol. Presidnsone makes the Cortisol.

  • Jim Marshall, Veteran, Alexandria, VA

    sent: 8:02 PM

    One needs Cortisol. Jim Marshall

  • AnCan – rick

    sent: 8:10 PM

    Estradiol seminar w. Steve S https://ancan.org/talking-estradiol-e2-for-recurrent-and-advanced-prostate-cancer/

  • Keith H. (southern Oregon)

    sent: 8:15 PM

    thanks for all this, I got to go, but grateful for expertise and this group.

  • Thomas Matica

    sent: 8:21 PM

    Short update. Can wait till next meeting. Got to run. Thanks everyone.

  • Barbara and Joe

    sent: 8:23 PM

    I hope it’s a low dose of predisone — it just about killed my mother with her rheumatoid arthritis.

  • Jim Marshall, Veteran, Alexandria, VA

    sent: 8:23 PM

    5mg of Prednisone is used. Jim M

  • Jim Marshall, Veteran, Alexandria, VA

    sent: 8:24 PM

    Although once you stop it one still should taper off versus Cold Turkey. Jim

  • Steve White

    sent: 8:28 PM

    Have to drop…thanks again

  • Alfredo in Houston, TX

    sent: 8:35 PM

    I must drop off now, thank you everyone; stay well.

  • Mark N

    sent: 8:42 PM

    Thanks!!

  • Barbara and Joe

    sent: 8:43 PM

    thanks so much everybody.