Hi-Risk/Recurrent/Advanced PCa Video Chat, May 23, 2023

Hi-Risk/Recurrent/Advanced PCa Video Chat, May 23, 2023

Hi-Risk/Recurrent/Advanced PCa Video Chat, May 23, 2023

AnCan is grateful to the following sponsors for making this recording possible: Bayer, Foundation Medicine, Pfizer, Janssen, Myriad Gentics, Myovant & Telix

AnCan Foundation deeply mourns our dear Board & Advisory Board Member, Moderator and Brains Trust Brother, Herb Geller. To read more click https://ancan.org/herbert-herb-miles-geller-phd-1945-2023/ 

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Editor’s Pick: Handcuffed by HMO, making the best of it. (bn)

Topics Discussed

Memory issues, but HMO won’t allow him darolutamide — try monotherapy abi?; tumors block TURP surgery, hoping ADT will ease surgeon’s job; AnCan pushes for better Orgovyx pricing; acupuncture and hot flashes; abi first, then enzalutamide — not the reverse; doing well on daro doublet after chemo; Orgovyx probably won’t thin the fog; mulling DEXA scan report; daro monotherapy addresses heart issue; filling the need for exercise with an e-bike; how much vitamin D?; grateful after switching to a GU oncologist; keep alert to side effects in Xgeva and Prolia; AnCan’s prostate cancer forum is back (https://ancan.org/forums); Embr Wave outdoors; landing an appointment with Oliver Sartor.

Chat Log

Harry Spila · 7:58 PM gotta go, take care everyone
AnCan – rick · 7:59 PM Happy riding!
Harry Spila · 8:00 PM ?
Mike Yancey – Oklahoma · 8:06 PM Gotta run
julian – houston · 8:06 PM great conversation, as always. Enjoy your Memorial Weekend!

Hi-Risk/Recurrent/Advanced PCa Video Chat, May 23, 2023

Hi-Risk/Recurrent/Advanced PCa Video Chat, May 15, 2023

Hi-Risk/Recurrent/Advanced PCa Video Chat, May 15, 2023

AnCan is grateful to the following sponsors for making this recording posssible: Bayer, Foundation Medicine, Pfizer, Janssen, Myriad Gentics, Myovant & Telix

AnCan Foundation deeply mourns our dear Board & Advisory Board Member, Moderator and Brains Trust Brother, Herb Geller. To read more click https://mailchi.mp/ancan/remembering-…

All AnCan’s groups are free and drop-in … join us in person sometime!    You can find out more about our 12 monthly prostate cancer meetings at https://ancan.org/prostate-cancer/     Sign up to receive a weekly Reminder/Newsletter for this Group or others at https://ancan.org/contact-us/

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Editor’s Pick: Controversial Death with Dignity discussion starts – and Keytruda shows up more than once at the back end … after passing Dude Wipes along the way! (rd)

Topics Discussed

Talking ‘Death with Dignity’ with AnCan Advocate; urologist refuses Provenge – get a GU med onc!; pros & cons of treating the primary; timing of RT; handling multiple QBs; Bx find no NEC; salvage RT commenced; clean up with Dude Wipes; brain fog/short term memory loss – drug and non-drug remedies; Flomax and brain fog; some Gents take just 2.5mg/daily prednisone with abi; Eligard & ukuleles; another Gent looks to pembro/Keytruda; proteomics; wean off Prolia; pembro vs chemo decision

Chat Log

Ben Nathanson sent · 5:14 PM As the End Nears: Dying with Metastatic Cancer https://join.compassionandchoices.org/a/end-nears-dying-metastatic-cancer Compassion & Choices https://www.compassionandchoices.org   States where medical aid in dying is authorized, and dates when it took effect: Oregon 10/27/1997 Washington 3/5/2009 Montana 12/31/2009 Vermont 5/20/2013 California 6/9/2016 Colorado 12/16/2016 Washington, D.C. 2/18/2017 Hawai‘i 1/1/2019 New Jersey 8/1/2019 Maine 9/19/2019 New Mexico 6/20/2021

Joe Comanda (Philadelphia) sent · 5:21 PM I don’t want to cause trouble, but I am troubled by the advocacy of Compassionate Choices, formerly the Hemlock Society. I would hope that men would not take that way out.

Len Sierra sent · 5:23 PM Everyone has to make that decision for themselves. No one else should make it for them.

rd sent · 5:24 PM We think it’ s each person to his own… AnCan believes everyone has a choice, Joe.

Jim B sent · 5:36 PM Hi Bob, I just had a Pluvicto treatment this morning. No side effects so far but I’m sure that dry mouth, nausea and slight fatigue will continue. How is your WBC coming along?

Joe Gallo sent · 5:47 PM Genito Urinary (GU) Oncologist Dr. Eleni Efstathiou

John Madden & Meiying Hu (May) – Houston TX sent · 5:49 PM https://www.houstonmethodist.org/doctor/eleni-efstathiou/

sent · 5:49 PM Eleni Efstathiou, MD, PhD Genitourinary Medical Oncology, Medical Oncology

John Madden & Meiying Hu (May) – Houston TX sent · 6:15 PM Open/Ongoing: https://www.swog.org/clinical-trials/s1802

John A sent · 6:15 PM https://reference.medscape.com/medline/abstract/31082943?icd=login_success_email_match_norm

Henry sent · 6:15 PM https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9173627/

John A sent · 6:15 PM kinda old

sent · 6:15 PM https://www.pcf.org/c/more-evidence-for-benefits-of-radiation-therapy-in-metastatic-prostate-cancer/?utm_source=NewsPulse&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=SEPT22NP

sent · 6:16 PM http://www.stampedetrial.org/participants/about-stampede

Henry sent · 6:19 PM https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1047279723000042

Peter K sent · 6:37 PM I have had 3 med oncs for over a year now. 2 up to a year ago. They are all valuable and I keep them all informed and they all have vaulable input

rd sent · 6:38 PM MDA – maybe the best cancer hospital … but not the best prostate cancer hospital

Peter K sent · 6:42 PM They are doing MRidian SBRT with View Rayt in Michigan- low toxicity in trials

Henry sent · 6:56 PM https://dudeproducts.com/

John Madden & Meiying Hu (May) – Houston TX sent · 6:59 PM Lions Mane: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09FD8C16B?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details

Frank Fabish Columbus OH sent · 7:04 PM Got to go guys. See you next week.

Jack sent · 7:05 PM Have to go. See you next time.

Bob G sent · 7:09 PM https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29971698/

Pat Martin sent · 7:15 PM I appreciate all you. You are great source of strength an encouragement. see you next Tuesday

Bob G sent · 7:23 PM Info on stopping Xgeva: https://www.myeloma.org/videos/it-safe-stop-xgeva-denosumab

sent · 7:32 PM Time to go. Thank you for the Good information.

Hi-Risk/Recurrent/Advanced PCa Video Chat, May 23, 2023

Hi-Risk/Recurrent/Advanced PCa Video Chat, Apr 25, 2023

Hi-Risk/Recurrent/Advanced PCa Video Chat, Apr 25, 2023

AnCan is grateful to the following sponsors for making this recording posssible:
Bayer, Foundation Medicine, Pfizer, Janssen, Myriad Gentics, Myovant & Telix

AnCan Foundation deeply mourns our dear Board & Advisory Board Member, Moderator and Brains Trust Brother, Herb Geller. To read more click https://mailchi.mp/ancan/remembering-herbert-geller?e=838454d636

WEBINAR RECORDING: What is a Pelvic Floor Physical Therapist – & why you need one
https://ancan.org/webinar-what-is-a-p…

All AnCan’s groups are free and drop-in … join us in person sometime! You can find out more about our 12 monthly prostate cancer meetings at https://ancan.org/prostate-cancer/
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Editor’s pick: After surgery, 15% of prostate beds are…what, exactly? (bn)

Topics Discussed

Is PSA uptick to 0.155 ripe for PSMA PET?; Keytruda patience paying off; the sweat is real as he sweats out a decision on longer ADT; bad liver enzymes on Pluvicto plus apalutamide — whodunit?; invisible on PSMA PET, he’s starting darolutamide and hoping for the best; how loved ones benefit from your germline test; doubting and defending murky claim that “15% of recurrence is in prostate bed”; PSA uptick is tiny but he hopes to be proactive; docs disagree on more radiation after PSA rise; getting genetic testing in Canada.

Chat Log

AnCan- rick · 6:38 PM Dr. Channing Paller https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/profiles/details/channing-paller

AnCan- rick · 6:42 PM AnCan’s link for Promise https://www.prostatecancerpromise.org/?utm_campaign=ANCAN&utm_medium=link&utm_source=Webinar

Erwin Zoch · 7:17 PM I’m not sure if this is applicable to the question re. recurrence in the prostate bed, but my recurrence is currently confined to the prostate gland per PSMA PET and MRI scans.

Erwin Zoch · 7:22 PM Thanks for the info. I have to leave for an appointment.

Stan Friedman· 7:42 PM Good night, everyone. It’s my birthday today and have a dinner date with my wife.

AnCan- rick · 7:47 PM Mark – here’s Schweizer’s presentation https://ancan.org/special-presentation-meds-a-potential-new-path-to-keep-men-on-as/

Mark Baldridge (Seattle area) · 7:48 PM Thank You

AnCan- rick · 8:00 PM Dr. Vapiwala https://www.med.upenn.edu/apps/faculty/index.php/g333/p2009716

Henry · 8:02 PM Regarding Allen C., did I hear correctly that a biopsy is expected? If so, could a genomic analysis drive tx decisions?

AnCan- rick · 8:03 PM Zelefsky http://www.mskcc.org/cancer-care/doctor/michael-zelefsky

AnCan- rick · 8:17 PM https://www.foundationmedicine.ca/

AnCan- rick · 8:19 PM 888-650-4835

Julian – Houston · 8:20 PM Thanks for the discussion.

Hi-Risk/Recurrent/Advanced PCa Video Chat, May 23, 2023

Hi-Risk/Recurrent/Advanced PCa Video Chat, Apr 11, 2023

Hi-Risk/Recurrent/Advanced PCa Video Chat, Apr 11, 2023

AnCan is grateful to the following sponsors for making this recording posssible: Bayer, Foundation Medicine, Pfizer, Janssen, Myriad Gentics, Myovant & Telix

WEBINAR RECORDING: What is a Pelvic Floor Physical Therapist – & why you need one
https://ancan.org/webinar-what-is-a-pelvic-floor-physical-therapist-and-why-you-need-one/

All AnCan’s groups are free and drop-in … join us in person sometime! You can find out more about our 12 monthly prostate cancer meetings at https://ancan.org/prostate-cancer/
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Editor’s pick: Cutting-edge diagnostics guide his treatment…but didn’t stop a new tumor. (BN)

Topics Discussed

Talked into HIFU with Gleason 8; finally back to full dose of meds after financial aid; awaiting CT scans for PSA rise 18 months post-chemo; proteomics and RNA sequencing on his new non-PSMA-avid tumor; looking for GU medical oncologist in Seattle area; testosterone is back, PSA and erectile function are undetectable — “2 out of 3 ain’t bad”; red clover, red clover, send the right brand over for hot flashes — or give acupuncture a try; upturn for Professor Herb, but still pushing to connect him with appropriate care; after 40th hyperbaric treatment, cystitis is under control; MSK wants a fly-by as he prepares for SBRT; settling on a dosage tweak for darolutamide; eyeing the future after 4th cycle on BAT

Chat Log

Unknown · 6:14 PM It’s a prostate cancer patient with a family history of prostate cancer who has been treating / managing his cancer with intermittent hormone therapy for 18 years. Diagnosed at age 55. Now, obviously, 73. Says he feels as good today as he did then. Why I am more apt at this time to continue this same course and out off radiation therapy.

Unknown · 6:15 PM *put off*

Unknown · 6:16 PM What is a high flue treatment?

AnCan- rick · 6:17 PM HIFU …. high frequency ultrasound

Unknown · 6:18 PM What prompted the psma?

AnCan- rick · 6:19 PM Rising PSA

John A · 6:25 PM Dr Sheade looks like a medical heme/onc. I don’t see any GU specialty

George Rovder, Arlington VA · 6:26 PM Jori Schede MD https://www.nm.org/doctors/1235587643/jori-b-sheade-md

AnCan- rick · 6:29 PM genitourinary medical oncologist

David Muslin · 6:29 PM https://www.cancer.northwestern.edu/find-a-physician/search.html?s=prostate

Julian – Houston · 6:36 PM Need to leave and maybe back later.

Alan Babcock · 6:49 PM What are the possible negative consequences of the treatment you are recommending? What are
the different treatments you considered?

Richard Tolbert · 6:54 PM Patient Access Network Foundation:

Richard Tolbert · 6:55 PM Email: www.panfoundation.org

George Rovder, Arlington VA · 7:06 PM Thank you all for your caring support. See you next time. George

AnCan- rick · 7:10 PM Michael Schweitzer, Evan Yu , Heather Chang

Pat Martin · 7:10 PM Fred Hutch is very active in trials, also.

AnCan- rick · 7:10 PM https://www.seattlecca.org/physicians/heather-h-cheng

AnCan- rick · 7:11 PM Heather Cheng

AnCan- rick · 7:12 PM https://www.seattlecca.org/providers/evan-y-yu

AnCan- rick · 7:13 PM https://www.fredhutch.org/en/labs/profiles/schweizer-michael.html

AnCan- rick · 7:14 PM also for Schweizer … https://www.seattlecca.org/physicians/michael-schweizer

Len Sierra · 7:41 PM From Mt. Sinai, NYC: Several studies of a proprietary extract of red clover isoflavones
suggest that it may significantly reduce hot flashes in menopausal women. However, the largest study showed no effect.

Len Sierra · 7:43 PM https://www.mountsinai.org/health-library/herb/red-clover#

Jack · 7:49 PM By reputation Himesha Beltran MD at Dana Farber, formerly in NYC is the neuroendocrine guru. I am
sure Rick already knows this but I have heard about her for quite a while. How to hook Herb’s treatment time up with her may be a challenge.

AnCan- rick · 7:54 PM Jack – the two docs on our list are Beltran and Aggarwal, We have direct connnections – but
we will not make them unless a responsible NEC onc is in charge.

Unknown · 7:58 PM NIH definition of Palliative care … https://www.nia.nih.gov/health/
what-are-palliative-care-and-hospice-care#palliative

AnCan- rick · 8:01 PM From the link above ….. What is palliative care? Palliative care is specialized medical
care for people living with a serious illness, such as cancer or heart failure. Patients in palliative care may receive medical care for their symptoms, or palliative care, along with treatment intended to cure their serious illness. Palliative care is meant to enhance a person’s current care by focusing on quality of life for them and their family.

Hi-Risk/Recurrent/Advanced PCa Video Chat, May 23, 2023

Hi-Risk/Recurrent/Advanced PCa Video Chat, Mar 14, 2023

Hi-Risk/Recurrent/Advanced PCa Video Chat, Mar 14, 2023

AnCan is grateful to the following sponsors for making this recording posssible: Bayer, Foundation Medicine, Pfizer, Janssen, Myriad Gentics, Myovant & Telix

All AnCan’s groups are free and drop-in … join us in person sometime! You can find out more about our 12 monthly prostate cancer meetings at https://ancan.org/prostate-cancer/
Sign up to receive a weekly Reminder/Newsletter for this Group or others at https://ancan.org/contact-us/

Join our other free and drop in groups:
Men (Only) Speaking Freely …1st & 3rd Thursdays @ 8.00 pm Eastern
https://ancan.org/men-speaking-freely/
Veterans Healthcare … 4th Thursday @ 8.00 pm Eastern https://ancan.org/veterans/

Editor’s pick: Fateful turns: Belated PSA test, inappropriate focal ablation, diagnosing cancer as BPH. (bn)

Topics discussed
Bad news after 6-year pause in PSA testing; focal ablation to avoid side effects ends in regret; huge prostate but doctor keeps treating BPH; sudden passing of Dennis McGuire from brain aneurysm; taken “right to the edge” with painful BAT side effects; simultaneously treating two kinds of prostate cancer; complications (lung puncture?) after port insertion; are wild hormones signaling a neuroendocrine tumor?; how many PSMA PETs will insurance pay for?; trouble with statins and darolutamide; veteran of intermittent therapy starting ADT again; newcomer can’t find a niche in AnCan’s prostate groups.

Chat log

AnCan Barniskis Room · 6:13 PM Also Telix … who make Ga68 PSMA 11 Illucix

AnCan Barniskis Room · 6:36 PM https://pathology.jhu.edu/patient-care/second-opinions

Len Sierra · 6:37 PM Jonathan Epstein 410-955-5043

Julian – Houston · 6:42 PM Dr Walser at UTMD in Galveston does FLA

John A · 6:59 PM Going to another group, see you guys next week

Dave Fitch · 7:12 PM Oops, would a condom catheter help instead foley?

AnCan Barniskis Room · 7:24 PM Truly saddened to receive the news about my dear Chicago Booth Alum, Dennis McGuire

J. Ward · 7:26 PM I’m really heartbroken for Dennis and his family. He was such a good egg — a classic upper midwesterner who was just so kind.

Dave Fitch · 7:31 PM Leaving for PSMA Zoom presentation, by Dr Ryan

Harry Spila · 7:54 PM hang in there Herb.

AnCan Barniskis Room · 8:06 PM Bempedoic Acid https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bempedoic_acid#:~:text=Bempedoic%20acid%2C%20sold%20under%20the,(high%20blood%20cholesterol%20levels).

Harry Spila · 8:10 PM I get cramps too. I’m on 80 mg Lipitor and darolutimide

AnCan Barniskis Room · 8:10 PM Bempedoic Acid = Nexletol

Herb · 8:14 PM i gotta go soon

Len Sierra · 8:16 PM Good luck, Herb.

Frank Fabish Columbus OH · 8:17 PM on your side Herb. Fight on.

Frank Fabish Columbus OH · 8:19 PM Have to go. Thanks guys for sharing.

Julian – Houston · 8:21 PM great conversations – Rooting for you Herb!