More on Medicare 2025: Drug Costs

More on Medicare 2025: Drug Costs

More on Medicare 2025: Drug Costs

UPDATE – PLEASE SEE IN PURPLE AT THE BOTTOM

A couple of weeks back, we posted Medicare Health Insurance Choices that explained the differences and pitfalls between traditional Medicare Part A and B plus Medigap insurance plans to Part C, Medicare Advantage. Click the link earlier in the previous sentence if you missed it.

As many already know, there is a Part D that covers drug costs. It is either purchased as a separate plan or rolled into Part C Advantage. Drug coverage is significantly changing this year, and AnCan has learnt that many of our participants are not yet aware. Hardly surprising because CMS as well as the various stakeholders like Payers and providers have done very little to let us patients know. Why should they? – we’re only the ultimate consumer!

The same cannot be said of JnJ who started educating patient advocate organizations this past May. In October and November JnJ created more education that includes a webinar and a round table coming up hosted by NAMAPA, the National Association for Medication Access and Patient Advocacy. Likely you have never heard of them. I hadn’t and it hardly rolls off the tongue. Nonetheless, the webinar was very instructive and you can watch it here.

The BIG difference for us patients is that no matter what, out-of-pocket drug costs for 2025 cannot exceed $2000. You heard right – for those of you on specialty oral medications like Nubeqa (darolutamide for prostate cancer) or Aubagio (teriflunomide for MS), normally sourced via specialty pharmacies, you will meet this cap January. And you’ll even be able to spread the payment over 12 months! More on that to follow.

But first, how is this coming about. Well it tracks back tot he changes brought about by the Inflation Reduction Act signed by President Biden in 2022. He promised to make drugs more affordable, and this is a part of the plan. As you can see in the slide to the left comparing 2024 to 2025, the donut hole has been eliminated. In its place, the Payer (Plan Sponsor) and Pharma (manufacturer) are paying more.  While the cost saving is very positive, it will likely impact us patients in other ways:

  • Your formulary choice may be reduced – so CHECK your medications before you renew.
  • Premiums for Part D may increase – even though out of pocket is capped. If you are unlikely to spend $2,000, look for a plan that defers your co-pay as long as possible
  • Higher premium plans should cover a larger portion of drug costs earlier. Your premium does NOT count towards the $2,000, so include premiums in your cost calculation to figure your exposure.

If you have a co-pay or co-insurance on your drugs, no matter if it’s Part C or D, it cannot exceed $2,000. However the amount you pay and who you pay it to may become a bit of a moving target. We mentioned earlier that you will now have the opportunity to spread your payments over the calendar year – or the remainder of it, if you sign up late or incur costs late in the year. The Medicare Prescription Payment Plan (M3P) takes your share of drug costs, up to a maximum of $2,000, and spreads them over the remainder of the year.

The simple example is for those on specialty pharmaceutical drugs like Nubeqa or Aubagio. Since your share of the drug cost is almost certainly going to be greater than $2,000 in January, if you opt in for M3P BEFORE going to the pharmacy or ordering from your mail order pharmacy, you’ll pay nothing on picking up/shipping the drugs. Subsequently, you’ll get a separate bill from your Payer for $167.67 monthly over 12 months, and pay no more for any of your drugs the rest of the year. There is NO interest, no late fee penalties, and you get a couple of months leeway, but there are penalties if you never pay. You can sign up for MP3 with your Medicare Payer/Plan Holder BUT not in the pharmacy for 2025. So if you arrive at the drug store prior to enrollment, you’ll be charged $2,000 to take your pills home. You can leave the pills, go home, enroll and return to the pharmacy 24 hours later and pick up without payment to the pharmacy..

If you don’t start this expensive drug until mid year, say September, and you’ve spent nothing on drugs prior, then the $2,000 is billed over the last 4 months at $500/month.

But what if your drug costs are more lumpy – they go up and down the whole year. In that case, the payments get recalculated each month and the monthly bill will vary.

There is a strange case too, if you know your co-pay is the same each month – say $55. This really throws M3P, and as you can see to the left, you’ll pay the same $660 (12x $55) either way but in different amounts each month if enrolled in M3P.

Finally, let’s address the Drug Benefit plans that many of you enjoy through PAN, PAF and others. Even the drug discount cards from Pharma that some receive.  Whatever you receive, or however you receive it, does NOT reduce your $2,000 exposure. You advise the pharmacy that you have a benefit, and they bill the Benefit Provider (PAN, PAF, Pharma ??). The credit will be applied against your drug cost, although eventually you may still be liable for up to $2,000 co-pay when the benefit runs out.

Looking at the first slide, it seems to AnCan that these benefits that are often funded by Pharma, eventually flow back to Pharma and the Payer. How they will credit them against what the patient owes is not yet clear. Before you get too crazed, our guess is the system has to change. These benefits need to be channeled directly to patients who cannot afford $2,000 p.a. AnCan is on it and already reaching out to NAMAPA and others to promote more of a direct, income based subsidy possibly reaching more beneficiaries.  One thing we have heard – APPLY EARLY for 2025 in the event you are in line to receive a subsidy.

Attribution: UPDATE – Slides are now available at Understanding Medicare Part D Changes and Their Impact on Patient Out-Of-Pocket Costs in 2025  prepared by JnJ and presented by NAMAPA  and JnJ.!!

PLEASE BE SURE TO SIGN UP FOR THE M3P PROGRAM UPFRONT. EVEN IF YOU OWE $2,000 IT WILL BE BILLED IN 12 INSTALLMENTS.  WE STILLL  HAVE TO FIGURE HOW YOU WILL BE REIMBURSED IF YOU RECEIVE ASSISTANCE. 

IF YOU HAVE A GRANT BE SURE TO PROVIDE DETALS TO THE PHARMACY ASAP. NOTWITHSTANDING, ALSO REACH OUT TO YOUR GRANTOR TO FIND HOW THEY WANT TO COORDINATE THE GRANT. IT’S STILLL A MOVING TARGET!

 

Helpful tips to be Your Own Best Medical Researcher

Helpful tips to be Your Own Best Medical Researcher

Helpful Tips to be Your Own Best Medical Researcher

AnCan asked Mike Wyn, a valued AnCan Frequent Flyer and intrepid researcher, to provide a little navigation to those who are new to research… as well as useful tips for some old hands like myself. I’ve already gathered some research nuggets from Mike’s wisdom… thank you, Mr. W.

Here are a few tips ensure the medical information you are researching is reliable and accurate

Book Research

Check the publication date: authors may need at least a year to write a book, and the average time between a book’s acceptance and its publication is typically between 9 to 12 months. Hence, the data may already be outdated when it hits the shelves

Professional Presentations

Check the credentials, disclaimers, and disclosures of the presenters. Who is the author? What is the sponsoring organization providing the information? Preferred sources are from reputable institutions, such as universities, hospitals, or government health agencies.

Google Web Searches

Use command “site:” to limit you search to top-level domains like .gov, ,org and ,edu.  For example, type: latest NCCN guidelines for prostate active surveillance  site: .gov OR site: .org OR site: .edu

Be cautious with .com sites unless they are from recognized and credible entities. Medical databases such as PubMed, Cochrane Library, and Google Scholar are good sources for cross-referencing scientific research.

Articles, Online Posts

Check articles, online posts, videos etc. for their sources, including scientific studies, medical journals, or clinical trials. Information from peer-reviewed journals is typically more reliable than content from non-peer-reviewed sources. Poor reviewed means that other people similarly qualified to the author have reviewed teh article adn provided comments.

Anecdotal Evidence

Anecdotal evidence is information that has been observed by the person reporting but not verified. Be skeptical of anecdotal evidence such as personal stories. It is not scientifically reliable. Focus on information supported by scientific evidence and clinical studies. The quality levels of evidence from highest to lowest for medical data are:

  1. Systematic reviews: collect and evaluate all available data/evidence within the researchers’ criteria. An example is the “Cochrane Database of Systematic Reviews”. Meta studies are a systematic review.
  2. Randomized controlled trials: participants are randomly assigned to experimental and control arms. The double-blind trial is the gold-standard of medical research where neither the participants nor the researchers know the placebo or medication/treatment is given. This is to prevent bias and to ensure the validity and reliability of the study.
  3. Cohort observational study: participants with common traits or exposure to the proposed medications or treatments are followed over a long period of time.
  4. Case study or report: a detailed report of result after treatment of an individual. This is formalized and reviewed anecdotal evidence.
Medical Trial Reports

The phases of medical trial studies cited by published medical papers are:

  1. Pre-clinical studies: laboratory experiments using cell cultures, animal or computer models. In vitro means tested In Vitro – literally ‘in glass’  means testing outside a living organism, in a test tube or petri dish, In Vivo – literally in life -means testing in a living organism, often mice.  Then studies move on to humans…
  2. Phase I trials: assess safety, dosage and side effects of the proposed medications or treatment.
  3. Phase II trials: expand P 1 to evaluate efficacy of the proposed medications or treatment – how well it works..
  4. Phase III trials: confirm efficacy, safety, dosage and to evaluate side effects of the proposed medications or treatment in much larger samples. This is often where randomized blind and double blind design is used. Blind means the patient does not know what they are getting; double blind means neither the patient nor the clinician know what is being dosed.
  5. Phase IV trials: monitor long term effectiveness and safety of the medication or treatment.
Statistical Terms

Some terms regarding statistical data cited in medical journals are explained as follows:

  1. N =  the number of participants: be wary of studies with a very low N.
  2. HR = hazard ratio:  HR=1 – there is no change in the proposed medication/treatment compared to control baseline. HR<1 – there is a reduction of risks with the proposed medication/treatment. HR>1 – there is an increase risk with the proposed medication/treatment.
  3. CI = Confidence Interval: A trial shows that a particular drug has a 20% effect within a certain time frame with 95% CI. This shows that the study, if repeated many times, it will be 95% confident that the 20% reduction will be consistently observed.
  4. P-value = Probability Value: This measures how strong the evidence is that the hypothesis, or effect being tested, is correct, rather than the result being random, or incorrect (null hypothesis). We seek a P-value that is <=0.05 meaning that there is a 95% or better likelihood the result is attributable to what is being tested..

 

Editor:  Advisory Board Member and The Active Surveillor, Howard Wolinsky reminded us of another presentation AnCan presented a few years back A Layperson’s Guide to Reading Medical Research – watch it!

Get Yer Shots – Vaccines for Cancer Patients

Get Yer Shots – Vaccines for Cancer Patients

Oh it’s not that kind of shot. It’s the other kind of shots, which require some modification for people with cancer. It just
so happens that ASCO (American Society of Clinical Oncology) has come out with new guidelines regarding vaccines for cancer patients.

The guidelines include a recommendation for doctors to take vaccination histories at the start of cancer treatment, followed by provision of recommended vaccines, re-vaccination after cancer treatments that wipe out immunity (for instance stem cell transplant), as well as vaccination of household contacts in order to protect the cancer patient.
We are more vulnerable to infection, because our immune system is injured by chronic inflammation, by the cancers, and by our treatments. Also, we don’t get as good an immune boost from some vaccines as people without cancer do.

If our immune system is “compromised” we can’t take live vaccines at all, and non-live vaccines aren’t as effective.  Live vaccines contain weakened but still replicating virus or bacteria. They cause a mild infection in normal people, which triggers an immune

response. But for those of us with a weakened immune system, live vaccines, such as chicken pox/shingles, measles, mumps, oral typhoid, and German measles, can cause a real infection.  Non-live vaccines are safe, including the new RNA  vaccines.  Non-live vaccines for different conditions can be given on the same day.

 

Here is a summary of recommendations, which I have shortened for prostate cancer:

  • “Clinicians should determine vaccination status and ensure that adults newly diagnosed with cancer and about to start treatment are up to date on seasonal vaccines as well as age- and risk-based vaccines 
  • Vaccination should ideally precede any planned cancer treatment by 2-4 weeks. However, nonlive vaccines can be administered during or after chemotherapy or immunotherapy, hormonal treatment, radiation, or surgery 
  • Adults with solid and hematologic cancers traveling to an area of risk should follow the CDC standard recommendations for the destination
    Note. Hepatitis A, intramuscular typhoid vaccine, inactivated polio, hepatitis B, rabies, meningococcal, and nonlive Japanese encephalitis vaccines are safe 
  • It is recommended that all household members and close contacts, where feasible, be up to date on vaccinations “

 

Here are some specific recommended immunizations for adults with Cancer:

 

Vaccine Recommended Age Schedule
Influenzaa All ages Annually
RSV 60 years and older Once
COVID-19 All ages As per the latest CDC schedule for immunocompromised17
Tdap or Tdb 19 years and older One dose of Tdap, followed by Td or Tdap booster every 10 years
Hepatitis B 19-59 years: eligible
60 years and older: immunize those with other risk factorsc
For adults 20 years and older, use high antigen (40 µg) and administer as a three-dose Recombivax HB series (0, 1, 6 months) or four-dose Engerix-B series (0, 1, 2, 6 months)18
Recombinant zoster vaccine 19 years and older Two doses at least 4 weeks apart
Pneumococcal vaccine 19 years and older One dose PCV15 followed by PPSV23 8 weeks later
OR
One dose PCV20d
HPV 27-45 years: shared decision making Three doses, 0, 1–2, 6-monthsAbbreviations: HPV, human papillomavirus; PCV, pneumococcal conjugate vaccine; PPSV-23, 23 valent Pneumococcal polysaccharide vaccine; RSV, respiratory syncytial virus; Td, tetanus and diphtheria; Tdap, tetanus, diphtheria and pertussis.
a Live attenuated influenza vaccine, which is administered as a nasal spray, cannot be given to patients with cancer.
bTdap has lower amounts of diphtheria and pertussis toxoid and is only used for those 7 years and older. DTaP, the pediatric vaccine for prevention of tetanus, diphtheria, and pertussis, is only for children younger than 7 years.
cHIV, chronic liver diseases, intravenous drug use, sexual risk factors, incarcerated individuals.
dPatients who have previously received PCV13 only can receive one dose of PCV 20 after an interval of 1 year.

Abbreviations: HPV, human papillomavirus; PCV, pneumococcal conjugate vaccine; PPSV-23, 23 valent Pneumococcal polysaccharide vaccine; RSV, respiratory syncytial virus; Td, tetanus and diphtheria; Tdap, tetanus, diphtheria and pertussis.

a Live attenuated influenza vaccine, which is administered as a nasal spray, cannot be given to patients with cancer.

bTdap has lower amounts of diphtheria and pertussis toxoid and is only used for those 7 years and older. DTaP, the pediatric vaccine for prevention of tetanus, diphtheria, and pertussis, is only for children younger than 7 years.

cHIV, chronic liver diseases, intravenous drug use, sexual risk factors, incarcerated individuals.

dPatients who have previously received PCV13 only can receive one dose of PCV 20 after an interval of 1 year.

 

Now, a few further details about some common shots:

 

COVID

The COVID-19 vaccines protect patients with cancer, reducing the risk of severe COVID-19 illness and hospitalization. The recommendation is to receive at least one dose of the updated 2023-2024 COVID-19 vaccine.  For those on therapies which diminish the immune response, ASCO recommends additional vaccine doses after 2 months. It is recommended to postpone immunization for 2-3 months for individuals who have recently had a COVID-19 infection. 

 

FLU

It is safe to vaccinate during chemotherapy or while white cells are low. But the nasal spray flu vaccine should not be given to patients with cancer. 

 

Pneumonia

Patients with cancer are at higher risk for pneumonia.  (Blood cancers 50 times the risk!) Pneumonia vaccines reduce the chances of getting pneumonia and the need for hospitalization.

 

Shingles

There is a new vaccine called RZV.  It is non-live so OK for us. (the previous vaccine, a live attenuated type, is not recommended for patients with cancer.)  RZV should be made available to all adults with cancer. This vaccine remains immunogenic even after cancer treatment has begun.

 

RSV

Patients aged 60 years and older with cancer are eligible to receive the respiratory syncytial virus vaccine.

 

Our immunity to tetanus, diphtheria, and pertussis weakens as we age, and this decline may be accelerated after cancer treatment.  It is strongly recommended that individuals diagnosed with cancer receive the Tdap vaccine if they have not been vaccinated as adults.

 

Why bother?

Vaccines

“Infections are the second most common cause of non–cancer-related mortality within the first year after a cancer diagnosis, with most of these deaths attributed to influenza and pneumonia, deaths that can be prevented throughimmunization. While patients with cancer have lower immune responses to influenza and pneumococcal vaccines, evidence supports the safety and benefits of vaccinations in reducing the severity of infections and associated hospitalizations.”

 

Often we will see the term “immunocompromised.”  Does this apply to us?  This term is not, to my knowledge, precisely defined.  For those of us with prostate cancer, it usually means neutrophils (a type of white blood cell) are down below 1000 cells per microliter of blood, and is usually due to our treatments.  The immune system is complex, and there are many ways to become “immunocompromised.”  Anyone on chemotherapy could be considered to be immunocompromised. .Ask your oncologist if you fit this category, and if you know of a clear generally accepted definition, please write to me. 

 

The authors sum up: “A cancer diagnosis can be overwhelming, and vaccination may not be an immediate priority in the treatment plan. However, numerous studies consistently highlight the best protection when vaccines are administered before starting cancer treatment, emphasizing the need for early vaccination.”

 

 

Special thanks to beloved AnCan moderator and Advisory Board member ‘Dr. John’ for providing this wonderful write up!

AnCan’s fave, Lindsey Byrne teams with JnJ to explain BRCA!

AnCan’s fave, Lindsey Byrne teams with JnJ to explain BRCA!

For those that have been around AnCan for a while, the name Lindsey Byrne should be familiar. Lindsey is a Genetic Counselor at The Ohio State University (James) Comprehensive Cancer Center who specializes in prostate cancer. Click this link, and you’ll see everything she has done with AnCan!

Lindsey recently participated with Janssen Biotech, soon to be referred to as just Johnson & Johnson (JnJ), to make 3 short videos on the implications of the BRCA gene mutation for prostate cancer. This is part of a non-branded education effort as JnJ introduces its newly approved single pill, AKEEGA, that combines PARP-Inhibitor niraparib with ARSI, abiraterone acetate. Lindsey doesn’t just talk the talk; she walks the walk – ask her patient, frequent AnCan participant, Frank Fabish pictured together right. AnCan, btw, is also indirectly connected to panelist GU med onc Cora Sternberg, who went to grade school with one of our gents, and was a good family friend of another.

If the video seems a little stiff, that’s because it has to be fully scripted to meet FDA requirements for the manufacturers. That said, the information is good, understandable and accurate – although it may leave out important additional information AnCan would impart. So if you know very little about BRCA, and want to understand it better, we recommend watching these 3 short videos that you can do in les than 20 minutes. Click https://www.uncoverbrca.com/expert-video-series/index.html

Two short caveats:

  • even if you don’t have prostate cancer, but your condition has a risk for BRCA mutations, the videos may be helpful. PARP-Inhibitors alone are often a treatment option when BRCA is present in any cancer.
  • in full disclosure, JnJ is a significant AnCan financial sponsor. However, JnJ neither requested nor required us to promote these videos.
Bang your drum… it could make you smarter and healthier!

Bang your drum… it could make you smarter and healthier!

Bang your drum… it could make you smarter and healthier!

 

I don’t want to work
I want to bang on the drum all day
I don’t want to play
I just want to bang on the drum all day
Todd Rundgren

 

Twice in the last several months, the topic of drumming came up in our  AnCan Men Speaking Freely group and it generated some excitement both times. So this month’s invite will be on that topic.In my former practice whenever I have given a non-verbal treatment there is a big relief that no talking is involved. In bypassing the verbal and left-brain systems we gain access to a typically unused part of ourselves. I wonder if we can use this approach to cope with our serious illnesses and have a better life?

Our brains have a characteristic called plasticity, the ability to change. You may have heard of this regarding the little finger brain circuit of violinists; it grows as they become proficient. Drummers also have different brains than the rest of us. They have fewer, thicker nerve fibers between the two halves of the brain. They have more efficiently organized motor cortices. (Schlaffke, 2019). Because of this, drummers can do things that we can’t. They can coordinate the two sides of the brain better, and perform motor tasks with greater efficiency. They can play different rhythms with each hand and foot at the same time.

Schlaffke’s subjects had drummed many hours per week for decades. But Bruchhage’s (2020) subjects trained for only 8 weeks and showed several changes in the cerebellum plus changes in the cortex, showing not only cerebellar plasticity but also communication and coordination between the cerebellum and brain sensorimotor areas as well as areas for cognitive control.

Drumming is very complicated, which is why it’s unfair that the lead guitar and vocal guy gets all the girls (Greenfield, J. 2022).

For some reason, there is a close association between beat synchronization (integrating auditory perception with motor activity) and reading ability in children (Bonacina, 2021). Higher synchronization ability predicts better literacy skills. Maybe early intervention involving drumming can improve literacy in kids?

Cahart et.al (2022) showed that drumming can improve behavioral outcomes for autistic adolescents and elucidated some of the neurology involved. Does this mean it could help us?

Drums have been used for millennia for healing, inducing trance, and even psyching up soldiers.

We have learned that drumming is not just about waking up the right brain, but also about connecting the sides of the brain, and the cerebellum with the cortex. It can induce alpha brain waves. It can release endorphins. Even T-cells respond to drumming (Bittman). It induces present-moment experience, which we often work toward to deal with death anxiety. Interpersonal connections are made when people drum together. Despite the effort involved, it induces relaxation. I have come across papers describing drumming and music therapy for a wide variety of emotional problems and currently, there are 8000 music therapists in the US.

How about for us?  We see above the possibility of reductions in anxiety, tension, pain, isolation, depression, and over-thinking the past and future. There are many studies of music therapy in ICUs, with patients on ventilators, easing hemodialysis pain, with positive results. Also, helpful with narcotic use, social integration, and depression. MSKCC uses music therapy.

With terminal cancer, there is data showing that music helps breathing, QOL, psychospiritual integration, reducing pain in chemotherapy, radiation, and helps pediatric breast and lung Ca patients (Ramirez 2018, Hilliard 2003, Burns 2015 Tuinmann 2017, Barrera 2002, Li 2011, Lin 2011). Atkinson (2020) found improvement with fatigue. I couldn’t find any studies focused only on Prostate Cancer.

Well, all this scholarly stuff is really unnecessary to anyone who ever banged a pot with a wooden spoon. Kids love it. Adults love situations where it’s OK to be wild and make noise, such as drumming circles and Pound classes. It’s just fun and feels good.

Dr. John Antonucci
Editor: Dr. John wrote this for our Men Speaking Freely Reminder on Dec 7, 2023. It’s such a perceptive, helpful and instructive piece, AnCan wanted to share it widely.
ICE  Checklist … in case you go cold!

ICE Checklist … in case you go cold!

ICE Checklist … in case you go cold!

Last month’s Under 60 Stage 3 & 4 Prostate Cancer meeting was small, intimate and produced a true gem from Down Under to benefit all AnCan’rs …

For the life of me, I forget what raised the topic … maybe a Death with Dignity discussion – but Aussie AnCan’r, Steve Cavill told us about the ICE “In Case of Emergency” Checklist Document that he and his wife Leonie, who occasionally attends our Care Partners Group, have both completed. Steve and Leonie reside in the suburbs of Melbourne and are currently heading towards mid-Winter.

This ICE Checklist takes much, if not all, the difficulty out of placing your key information in one place. Like your vital passwords to your laptop, phone or bank accounts; names of key individuals in your life and more. You know .. all that information making it possible for someone to piece your life together if you’re suddenly no longer with us.

Frankly it’s information we should all compile no matter how old. With this checklist guide at hand to march us through it, there can be few excuses. Just remember, this version of the ICE checklist was created in Oz, so it may not be fully applicable Stateside.  If one of our US volunteers has time to ‘Americanize’ it, I feel sure it will be greatly appreciated – we have very few solicitors in the US and a few too many attorneys!

Here’s the checklist document in Word format ICE Document Template  Now do your part …. and a BIG THANK YOU, Steve Cavill!!